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There is nothing wrong with diversity. The problem is quotas to prove you are trying to foster a diverse environment, that pushes everyone in the majority class down a peg to meet some moral goal.

Then there is living in a constant state of "walking on eggshells" at work, at school etc. employers hiring diverse applicants to use as show ponies for photo ops, the majority class employees being terrified of ever giving honest criticism for fear of being labeled a racist or sexist or whatever-ism that people want to throw around.

Being told subliminally in k-12 and then overtly in higher education that "white people" are the problem or white men are the root of all ills in society.

Seeing all the high school and college valedictorians being mostly female but then reviewing their work and seeing nothing original or meaningful come from it. Wonder what's going on there?

I am for a fair playing field, it if the landscape is such that your appearance gives you an unfair advantage in life then I am against it. And no, being white in America is not an unfair advantage, I am white and I feel like I have been passed over for everything in favor of someone who is presumed to have a harder life than I have. For the record I grew up in poverty and use a wheelchair daily yet I went to college and got a cs degree and took out the loans and put in the years of work. I overcame all my obstacles WITHOUT someone giving me a leg up because I WORKED HARD and bit the bullet. And I paid back the loans!

Seeing all these woke crybaby actors and special interest group people cry because they didn't get a golden escalator to the top as if it was their due is why this conservative revolution is happening.

There are too many softhearted fools who honestly believe the world owes them something for whatever happened to their ancestors generations ago, whether it was slavery, or the church, or the pilgrims/colonizers whatever. They fail to realize you don't get anything by whining. You take it, or you work/trade for it, but you will never get and keep power by crying for attention.

They took it for a while, but now we are taking it back. Damn the fucking rules.

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You have some good points, but realize that actual racism when it comes to hiring, renting, business interactions and more scenarios like that is very real. You don't even have to look far, there are plenty of researches and even successful lawsuit surrounding last-name bias. If you have a last name that indicates african or latino ancestry, your resume gets tossed out the majority of the time (yes,not sometimes but most of the time). If you substitute only the last name of the resume and application and apply to the same list of companies with a european name you will get at least an invitation for a first round phone interview most of the time. I can see all the faults with diversity and inauthentic DEI efforts, but what I think well meaning people misunderstand is that that problem pales in comparison to actual racism that's going on.

Like, ok, get rid of DEI but can you wait until racial profiling in hiring goes down a bit? like give it at least one more generation? a person who was 20 in 1963 facing "no blacks" signs all over America is 85 today, young enough to still be working in congress, vote and drive still and even serve as CEO or on a board.

> There are too many softhearted fools who honestly believe the world owes them something for whatever happened to their ancestors generations ago, whether it was slavery, or the church, or the pilgrims/colonizers whatever. They fail to realize you don't get anything by whining. You take it, or you work/trade for it, but you will never get and keep power by crying for attention.

Yeah, i don't care for what you said there but people should be treated fairly right? forget history, forget all that. but if you have skills you should have work opportunity right? People are owed a fair chance at life's opportunities. that isn't happening, diversity,dei,etc.. is a flawed approach to address all that. If people like you suggested better ways of solving the racism problem, that would be great, but your solution is to leave racism alone and pretend it isn't a thing.

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There is 0 chance companies are refusing to hire skilled candidates that could make them money based solely on race. If this is happening it is because they bring more problems than profit when they enter the company.

And if companies are discriminating on race then you wouldn't want to work there anyway. The solution is not to force everyone to get along, that only breeds more resentment.

Far more likely is companies are weighing their liabilities by hiring a black or Latino or gay person or whatever and then facing a lawsuit because said person underperforms and plays the race card when consequences come around. The companies are afraid of upsetting these people so they are in essence elevated above their coworkers in terms of power/protections at work.

The DEI solution is to present a threat of greater liabilities immediately to companies by not hiring these people.

If I own a business and I want a peaceful cooperative work group I should be allowed to only hire based on what I see as the best fit.

If that means all people of a certain race or group are removed from my hiring pool then that's a stupid strategy because I am leaving competitive employees on the table for other businesses, so I would t do that, unless I had very good reason to believe this particular individual will bring excess friction to the work space.

It's not the governments job to step in and regulate how companies hire their employees.

If companies refuse to hire these people en masse their strategy should be to start their own company and present a real threat of competition to the companies that spurned them.