[intended]

The second order effects of cheap education are immense, ranging from longer life span, better health, stronger economies, amongst just a few.

The matter at hand, specifically, is one about how our ability to verify is overwhelmed by our ability to generate content.

This is playing out with recruitment, bug reports, complaint forms - and going all the way up to sophisticated fraud.

[philipallstar]

It's not cheap education. What is the point in deliberately changing the topic? It's about paying people to consume free education.

[patcon]

No. It's a Sybil attack on subsidy to help ppl of different means equally make room for education in their lives. No one is "making money" unless they are committing fraud. They are being put on an equal playing field -- the subsidies are seemingly directed at the individual, but are terraforming [of the field] in nature, not for enrichment of the individual.

I was able to get educated with full focus on that task, because my family prioritised saving for my education. I want others, without such privilege, to have access to such opportunity.

If you choose to frame it also that "your parents paid you to consume free education", then so be it. But let's not pretend the state is doing something strange or against its core mission here

[spwa4]

Read the article. The students complained about aren't after the opportunity.

[InDubioProRubio]

The third order effect of handing out money for nothing, is the chicks coming home to roost as anti-education movements tear down the nation.

[lores]

Europe as a whole manages to hand over money for nothing to would-be students in need without any anti-education backlash. An anti-education stance is the cause of protesting education subsidies, not their consequence.

[spwa4]

Yeah right. Now go visit East Germany, no shortage of anti-education anti-intellectual attitudes.

[intended]

As someone else pointed out, yeah - anti education movements are a third order effect of how succesful education is at not making people vote for religious causes and non scientific positions.

The threat of its efficacy, is why, since 1960 onwards, a large chunk of the western world has been figuring out how to bend psychology, rhetoric, and media forces to undermine "Ivory tower" intellectuals.

Yes, a succesful movement has been undermined because it posed a threat to people with the money to spend to fight their battles.

This is old news.

[_DeadFred_]

This. People didn't agree on immigration levels yet they thought people fleeing horror should have shelter from the horror and be given asylum. The Democrats seemed to let the asylum process be abused as a general immigration process and now the US is having a huge pullback/backlash on asylum seekers.

[mcphage]

> The third order effect of handing out money for nothing, is the chicks coming home to roost as anti-education movements

Anti-education movements may be a third order effect for this, but it's a first order effect for other groups who are deliberately pushing anti-education efforts.

[gosub100]

No one's "anti education", except universities bloated with administration and professors who publish false data for the gov bux.