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by froddd 429 days ago
Reducing the problem to ‘people coming from overseas’ is an equally reductionist argument.

There are properties going unused, for very many reasons. Second homes, holiday homes, etc. This also drives the price of properties up. This is one of the inputs to the problem. Planning permission laws is another input. The size and change of size of the people needing housing is another input.
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spacebanana7 429 days ago
Is it not the dominant factor, at least in the short term? It's much faster for 150k people to enter/leave the UK than for a corresponding number of homes to built/demolished.
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macrocosmos 429 days ago
It’s obviously the dominant factor to anyone with the eyes to see it.
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chippiewill 429 days ago
It does, but occupancy rates in the UK are already incredibly high compared to countries like France.

There are simply too many people and not enough houses.

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matt-p 429 days ago
reductionist in this case is not a bad thing. We need a major change to fix this situation and doing some little tweaks like increasing taxes on second homes or holiday homes does not actually fix this (we already tax those specific cases, with things like second home stamp duty or in some areas second home council tax).

You have

A - Demand (immigration of 1 Million per year)

Or

B - Supply (building only 120,000 houses per year)

We MUST fix one or both of these sides of the equation. Holiday homes aren't going to add up to a row of beans quite frankly (and will have very negative effects on the tourism industry, not so bad in London - but might be quite an impact in cornwall for example).

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froddd 429 days ago
Holiday homes have quite the impact in many parts of Wales.

Occupancy ratings per house seem to be quite low on average [1], but weirdly I can’t seem to find any figures for overall occupancy.

[1] https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/housing/...

Edit: clarification

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matt-p 428 days ago
Maybe on a hyper local basis, but beware there will be negatives with flushing them out too.

On a national scale I'm afraid it's just not statistically significant.

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mattmanser 429 days ago
The people have been saying pretty clearly for 20 years that they want A fixed.

But the politicians just ignore that for "growth" and keep granting 100,000+s of visas and then blame asylum seekers.

And then complain that there's mysteriously low productivity in the UK.

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