[surge]

Bernie Sanders put it best: "open borders is a Koch Bros scheme"

You saturate the labor market with workers, it depresses wages, plain and simple. It's in the interests of shareholders to saturate the labor market to increase profits.

[wutwutwat]

Companies exploiting labor to maximize profit is as old as this country itself. Slave labor, child labor, god awful minimum wages, union busting. What's your point? Why is this an issue now when it has always existed?

[surge]

The point is we have laws in place to prevent it, unless you're being trafficked and forced to pay off gangs that transported you over the border, and no rights to ability to deal with an abusive situation.

The fact that you are okay with the defacto slavery/trafficking because "its always happened" says a lot, and why I generally dismiss these arguments, because at the end of the day, you just want to pay less for things, while you live in the nice part of town.

[fzeroracer]

> The point is we have laws in place to prevent it

And the current administration is flagrantly violating and ignoring the laws and the courts of our country. What is the point of laws if they're not followed? What is the point of your argument saying we have laws in place if laws no longer matter?

[wutwutwat]

I didn't say I was ok with anything, don't put words in my mouth. I was asking why the thing that has always existed is a big issue now. For this administration specifically, the thing that has always existed wasn't an issue that demanded these actions the last time they were in office, just 4 short years ago. See what I'm pointing out? There are other reasons that things are being done.

[gazebo64]

>For this administration specifically, the thing that has always existed wasn't an issue that demanded these actions the last time they were in office, just 4 short years ago

Immigration and border security were maybe the #1 policy front for Trump in 2016 -- am I missing something here?

[wutwutwat]

Did the things that are happening right now happen back then? That's what I'm asking.

[gazebo64]

>Why is this an issue now when it has always existed?

Because it's a relatively new phenomenon that the ruling administration enables and advocates for the import of 10 million illegal immigrant laborers.

[alabastervlog]

I hesitate to ask, but... what?