[nonethewiser]

Its not clear what the effect no Harvard would be on those metrics. And all of those are necessarily in Harvards best interest to maintain too.

This is compared to a direct payment to sustain operations which the government is saying they may not be in favor of. But its not like Harvard would say ”it may not be in our interest to produce successful people anymore.”

[ceejayoz]

Harvard isn't the first to be targeted, nor will they be the last.

The American university system is undeniably impactful on American success over the last century. It would be tough to put any sort of exact number on it, but we can absolutely say "a shitload".

[nonethewiser]

>The American university system is undeniably impactful on American success over the last century.

Merit based reforms would only help. What kind of DEI programs did Harvard have 100 years ago?

[ceejayoz]

> And merit based reforms would help continue this.

I look forward to some.

This ain't it.

[nonethewiser]

Ill settle for agreeing in principle that Harvard should be merit based

[foldr]

> What kind of DEI programs did Harvard have 100 years ago?

Amongst others, legacy admissions and discrimination against Jews, Catholics and non-whites. Let’s not pretend that Harvard’s admissions process, or American society more generally, was some kind of perfect meritocracy in 1925.