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by nearlyepic 434 days ago
As a Jewish Hungarian, I remember respecting the `NEIN JUDE` signs (as a people attempting to preserve their cultural identity, which I feel a nation is entitled)... even if it made finding a shop to visit extremely difficult.

This was eighteen years ago, and I hope nothing has changed in Germany.

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Not every form of discrimination is the holocaust.

It is very important to not be extreme when dealing with human ignorance. For mild cases of discrimination, especially those coming from fear and ignorance, engaging in full confrontation is not necessarily the most effective strategy to reduce said discrimination. It might actually increase it.

Now if faced with hate speech, that's a much higher degree. That needs a different strategy to reduce it.

But unless you are looking at actual segregation and genocide, dropping a Nazi accusation is hardly constructive.

Holy projection, batman. I deliberately copied the comment verbatim and changed to an extreme example to demonstrate the problems with it.

Anyways, a "no whites" sign is definitely "actual segregation" and I'm not going to debate it or any apologia (which is what your comment is).

One of the "justifications," should you desire to care for the Japanese POV, was explained this way:

We grew up in this small town all seeing each other naked; for outsiders to come in and disrupt their `normal`, would be disrespectful to their culture.

My native partner and I eventually found a large enough / open enough spa which allowed us both in without concern (we just had to travel more, which was fine/informative; and promise not to "be disrespectful" // fuck).

Definitely discrimination against non-Japanese might still be common in less-urban areas ... yet your "rewording" my comment to be Nazi-themed is (by your own perogative) just another unrelated confirmation of Godwin's Law.

> just another unrelated confirmation of Godwin's Law.

Yeah, I workshopped it with "Irish need not apply" but it just didn't hit the same.

What does this sort of wordplay ever add to any conversation? The topic is small towns in Japan, not a survey of Jewish complaints from 100 years ago.
Oh, sorry, are we supposed to respectfully inform someone why segregation is bad when they practically paraphrase the 14 words? I thought my wordplay got my point across pretty well, frankly.
>why segregation is bad

What do you think about some of the religious communes / islands which do not allow women, outright, e.g. Okinoshima Island; Mount Athos.

What about places which exlude born-men?

Shouldn't tiny Nepal be allowed to massively restrict tourism/outsiders (should it so choose, as it does)?

Where/when are we going to be allowed to have these necessary conversations, without the spite/tone? People ought'ta be able to self-isolate, of their own choosing.