[jdminhbg]

> and then I need to wait 3 seconds to see if it actually turned them on

If you want to unlock a Kia with the app, first you need to pay $15/month, and then you need to press and hold for one second the unlock button, after which you have a 30-50% chance of the unlock request going through. To let you know that it went through, you will receive an email. It's the most user-hostile app I still have on my phone.

So no, Tesla is not as shitty as other automakers. The bar is so much lower than you can imagine.

[cyberax]

I had remote unlock for my Chevy Volt in 2012. It was as fast as Tesla's.

So yep, Tesla sucks. Other car makers can suck a bit more, but that doesn't make Tesla any better.

[jdminhbg]

Even this example is terrible, I don't "remote unlock" my Tesla, it's just unlocked when I get close to it. It used to be 95% reliable (not great), but now that they added an Apple Watch app, it's 100% reliable (either my phone or my watch unlocks it via proximity).

[apelapan]

I wonder how much is the Tesla and how much is the phone. I used to have 98% success with just walking up to my Model Y, phone in pocket. These days it is more like 80% and sometimes it can take over a minute before the car accepts that a "key is present", even after manually unlocking with the app, sitting in the drivers seat and having an established bluetooth connection that is playing through the car speakers.

[cyberax]

I just carry a keyfob. It's also helpful for opening the trunk.