[jonplackett]

Just a good time to remember that the same guy who thinks tariffs are a good idea is the guy who stood at a podium during Covid next to the world’s leading expert and suggested injecting bleach into Covid patients was a good idea.

And was caught on mic saying he likes to grope women.

I would not say anyone is ‘automatically’ questioning Trump’s character or intelligence.

There is plenty of evidence he has neither.

[spiderfarmer]

Truth is, Trump never said anything particularly intelligent or insightful. I think most commenters in this thread would make smarter decisions and would give better answers to tough questions without resorting to deflections and personal attacks . He always needs someone around to explain his boasting comments to make it seems logical, but this term, he’s not even surrounded by smart people anymore. It’s frightening.

[arandomusername]

You really are proving that user right, considering Trump never suggested injecting bleach.

[jonplackett]

I beg to differ. Quote from Trump:

“I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute ... is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning?"

"Because you see it gets inside the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that”

https://www.axios.com/2022/04/26/birx-calls-trump-disinfecta...

Edit: found the actual video. Enjoy!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5t...

The guy is a full on moron who thinks he is a full on genius.

[arandomusername]

Never mentioned bleach. Mentioned UV disinfection right before that quote.

Never suggested it or said it's a good idea. Just said it's interesting, worth checking out, and has to be done by medical doctors.

Completely manipulating and twisting what Trump said to further your agenda - again proving the user above right. Is what Trump said stupid? Yeah. Did he suggest to inject bleach? No

[jonplackett]

OK so he suggested injecting disinfectant. Which is basically the same as bleach. If you can’t tell that from the video I’m not sure what’s going on anymore.

He also talks about putting UV lights inside the body, which is still a bit dumb, but not as dumb as injecting or ingesting disinfectant or bleach.

If you want to say he is only says it could be ‘interesting’ to inject or consume disinfectant then sure, why not - that’s still insane and dumb in equal measure.

He even tries to walk back his comments later saying he was being ‘sarcastic’ which he very clearly was not.

[arandomusername]

When you get a wound, it's often a good idea to disinfect it. Do you wash your wounds with bleach?

[freejazz]

When you are engaged in a conversation is it a good idea to crater the conversation by myopically focusing on one minor detail, to the detriment of everyone else?

[freejazz]

You're proving that user right. Taking one minor quibble about what this other poster said, which was obviously not a full recitation of all of Trump's highly questionable conduct over the years (as opposed his less questionable conduct) isn't the slam dunk you're making it. It's more like nitpicking that goes well beyond the point and only serves to demonstrate you interest in arguing small details and not anyone's actual points.

[arandomusername]

Nitpicking? Minor quibble? It was the major point that the user brought up.

> Just a good time to remember that the same guy who thinks tariffs are a good idea is the guy who stood at a podium during Covid next to the world’s leading expert and suggested injecting bleach into Covid patients was a good idea.

First sentence, right here. It's complete dishonest framing to make what Trump said seem as bad as possible. Which just goes back to the parent user's comment:

> Everyone on both sides automatically thinks the worst about everyone on the other side these days, usually just to score some internet points.

[freejazz]

>Nitpicking? Minor quibble? It was the major point that the user brought up.

Not really. The major point the user brought up: "I would not say anyone is ‘automatically’ questioning Trump’s character or intelligence. There is plenty of evidence he has neither." That's like reading comprehension 101.

>First sentence, right here. It's complete dishonest framing to make what Trump said seem as bad as possible. Which just goes back to the parent user's comment:

Not really.

>> Everyone on both sides automatically thinks the worst about everyone on the other side these days, usually just to score some internet points.

Exactly what you did to the other poster. The other poster was clearly saying there is great reason to not assume the best about Trump. Your response? Ignore that and bicker about a minor detail.

[arandomusername]

And the bleach argument was the supporting argument for the statement regarding intelligence.

> Not really.

Yes really.

> Exactly what you did to the other poster. The other poster was clearly saying there is great reason to not assume the best about Trump. Your response? Ignore that and bicker about a minor detail.

No. The poster used that bleach argument as the reason here - which is a completely dishonest argument. It's not a minor detail.

Is this how the discussion should go, in your dream world?

- Trump is bad!

- Trump is good!

- Trump is bad!

Since, according to you, actually discussing the exact cases/reasoning brought up is quibbling over minor details, nitpicking.

[freejazz]

>And the bleach argument was the supporting argument for the statement regarding intelligence.

It was but one example of a list much longer than the post you responded to, which anyone who was fair would recognize.

>Yes really.

No, not really.

>No. The poster used that bleach argument as the reason here - which is a completely dishonest argument. It's not a minor detail.

The bleach argument was one example and you're being nitpicky about it anyway.

>Is this how the discussion should go, in your dream world?

Strawman.

>Since, according to you, actually discussing the exact cases/reasoning brought up is quibbling over minor details, nitpicking.

You're not engaging the substance of his argument while decrying that exact failure in everyone else. You say people should focus on main points and not quibble about small details and it's exactly what you are doing.

When did you engage with the main point that Trump has poor character and is unintelligent? You didn't. You're bickering about whether or not he literally said inject bleach. Okay, throw out the bleach part. The point still stands but you don't want to discuss it because you just want to quibble about the bleach. It's a complete waste of time for anyone interested in engaging in a conversation. Maybe he was wrong, maybe he misremembered, maybe in this one instance he isn't being fair. You don't engage in any of that and you assumed the worst. It's exactly what you're complaining about and I'm not going to sit here repeating myself because you like to argue.