[andyolivers]

Welcome to Botmetr — the first platform that lets you compare, analyze, and review chatbots, all while earning rewards for your insights. Have you ever tried to get help from a chatbot and ended up screaming at your screen? You’re not alone. From missed questions to robotic loops that go nowhere, bad chatbot experiences are more common than ever — and it’s hurting customer support across industries. But here’s the good news: We’re flipping the script.

[nathanaldensr]

This kind of stock marketing script tends not to fly on HN. If you want general interest you need to go deeper than this.

[andyolivers]

But I already have your interest, at least enough to have your comment

[ripbozo]

Your comment is very obviously AI generated. You can't even be bothered to write a small blurb about your website (that is about chatbots, for crying out loud) by hand?

[mystified5016]

It really says all there is to say about this 'platform'. The creators don't care enough to put even the barest of minimum effort into promoting it, why would anyone else care?

[andyolivers]

I care enough to reply to your post. What do you know about putting effort into anything? Just because you're allowed to judge a piece of content, doesn't mean that you can judge how much effort a person puts on something. Would love to know how much effort you put on your work

[bromuro]

How is it very obviously? Because the correct grammar? What if OP is not native English speaker and let AI proofread it?

[andyolivers]

It wasn't AI generated. If a correct description for you means that it was written by AI, I'm flattered

[andyolivers]

And the purpose is "gamifying" the whole chatbot hunt, not fact-checking or red-flagging AI-generating content btw

[nathanaldensr]

I have no idea what a "chatbot hunt" is and why there would be economic value in hunting them.

[andyolivers]

That's why you should check my website, you'd be better informed ;)

[tschwimmer]

foiled by the old em-dasheroo!

[macintux]

I am annoyed that correct use of punctuation is now considered a red flag.

[eterm]

Like all punctuation: it's a choice.

One that has made it's way into LLMs because they've injested a lot of actual books that were professionally type-set.

Humans typing online don't tend to use em-dash; LLMs often make the choice to do so.

That makes it a very strong signal.

[defsectec]

I use the em-dash and en-dash pretty often—as many academically-styled human authors do—and sometimes I worry my writing style makes my content seem like LLM output. I tend to use it more when I've been using a lot of parenthesis for lists or elaboration (eg. & ie.).

I've found the most telling sign isn't just the presence of the em-dash, but the fact that the em-dash is used for everything, regardless of wether a parentheses, comma, or semi-colon was more appropriate.

Often the em-dash is used "incorrectly" such as the example above where there is a single space on either side of the em-dash and sometimes it is used in place of the en-dash for number ranges too. I regularly have to fight things like ChatGPT to use other "advanced" punctuation in place of the em-dash.

Also line breaks, LLMs love markdown line breaks for some ungodly reason.

That's my pointless pontification for the day. :)