[sally_glance]

Thanks, that was insightful. Vision and mission can be a hard sell, depending on the company. Having some decades of engineering tradition certainly helps with that.

Focusing on retention somehow went out of fashion these days, it pains me how often I have to reiterate short vs long term costs. It's not all on the employer side though, loyalty seems a rare attribute today as well... I get many CVs of people who barely ever stayed a year at any one company. Doesn't mean they won't stay with us, but takes some convincing arguments on their side.

[fuzzy_biscuit]

Companies that show little loyalty should expect little loyalty. It seems to be a general business culture truth right now that loyalty is something that will be exploited rather than lauded. That's just my experience as someone who has been in 3 consecutive layoffs over the last few years and became a bit jaded/bitter before my current gig.