[asperous]

It appears this will be an opt in feature.

Honestly it will probably help some people "hey where did I put that file?" but yes at a tremendous cost to privacy and security for those who use it.

I am also weary that it is opt in "for now".

[Gigachad]

Microsoft’s idea of consent is “Yes” and “Ask me again tomorrow”

[hulitu]

> Microsoft’s idea of consent is “Yes” and “Ask me again tomorrow”

Not only Microsoft's. I think Google were the first who introduced this crap. Now everybody is using it because users don't matter.

I think the UX of the future is: Please enter your card number and let us take what we want.

[darth_avocado]

Okay but that doesn’t help if it is a corporate laptop and the corporation requires you to opt in. Then somehow abuses the recall feature at every point? Took a 5 min break? Fired for cause 1 day before you get your bonus. Took a few mins longer to complete a task? Withhold promotion for another year. Opt in isn’t really opt in.

[kyriakos]

Corporations already do that, they don't need recall. The amount of spy ware disguised as security software that comes installed by IT on a corporate laptop is insane. You have to experience it to understand.

[cratermoon]

> this will be an opt in feature.

Keep in mind that anyone you email, chat, video conference, share files, or otherwise electronically interact with that has a Windows 11 machine with Recall will automatically opt you and your communications in as well, and you can not prevent it.

[TiredOfLife]

Keep in mind that anyone you email, chat, video conference, share files, or otherwise electronically interact with can record on their side and you can not prevent it.

[cratermoon]

Let me clarify: This is Recall, a Microsoft product, installed and working across a large number of machines. While Microsoft claims all Recall snapshots and processing are local to the machine, it's a all but given that all those Windows machines are using some kind of Microsoft cloud, Azure, Office 365, or OneDrive storage.

Not a bunch of independent, disorganized one-offs.

Consider this: your boss or another senior person at work has Recall and brings up information related to your employment, performance, and compensation. A friend has Recall, and reads some email from you in which you confide something sensitive. That customer support agent at the company you do frequent business with has Recall, because their employer wants to monitor their minute-to-minute activities, and brings up your account history.

Independently and uncoordinated, maybe not so bad. Together, tied back to Microsoft, it's easy to imagine constructing a profile of you from your interactions with these seemingly independent but in really collective third parties.

[eviks]

How will it help there? It will just make stuff up. In the meantime you already have tools for instant search by name and more complicated option with content search