[mountainmonk]

"Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws"

Both parties share the blame. With Trump some claim that it was Kamala's focus on trans that made the difference while others claim that she didn't focus that much on it if at all. My take is that both parties jump at the opportunity to focus on these lesser issues rather big picture items such as taxes, universal healthcare or anything else that would actually make a large impact in people's lives.

This is nothing new. I remember when Bernie was drowned out years ago and the focus became gay marriage instead of the much more important issues he was advocating for. The blame for focusing on these issues cannot fall just on the republican party. The democrats were more than happy to focus on these issues instead of something that might pit them against those that fund them. If all that matters is who is paying you behind closed walls, then it doesn't matter which party is in power at all.

[watwut]

It was republicans who focused on trans, relentlessly and for months super actively. And it helped to win them election, outrage and anger sells votes. It was effective to make voters vote for them.

Besides, the parties are not symmetrical. This is not both sides issue, this is literally republicans causing all the damage issue while democrats are blamed for not stopping it. The "both parties are to blame" when what is happening is literally republicans doing it massive harm intentionally is what caused this situation.

[mountainmonk]

The republicans come in screw things up and then the democrats come in and fix a thing on two, they never actually repair things and even continue doing the same things. Obama stayed in the same wars they condemned Bush for, kept the same 'war on terror' policies. Trump on the other hand removed or stopped almost everything associated with Obama. Biden kept the sanctions on China that Trump put in while Trump again removed the chips act and everything else that Biden did. See the pattern here? one party destroys the things of the other party keeps the very same things they condemned the other party for.

My guess right now is that democrats after Trump are counting on coming in, fixing some very minor things while running on a 'everything is gonna be different' platform much like Obama did after Bush.

I'm not saying they are equal, they are different but at the end of the day they both play on the same team so who cares about the small differences?. I honestly believe the democrats are done for, its either that or there won't be a point to them anymore since if they stay the same there won't be any need to pretend anymore as the last cycle of this little game ends with the next Trump.

[watwut]

Obama was centrist, campaigned as a centrist and was voted for by people who wanted centrism. Tried to rule as centrist as was his actual mandate from voters. That is when republicans went crazy and radicalized to the far right. And no, you wont convince me that racism was not playing the role, no matter how much did the online center claimed the opposite.

It is ridiculous that he is blamed for not doing much when what republicans back then did was, well, blocking everything. The ridiculous obstructions and one sided arguments were new back then, they became norm now.

> while Trump again removed the chips act and everything else that Biden did

Trump broke laws big time while doing it. He is literally dismantling both democracy and rule of law. It is ridiculous to criticize democrats for not going full fascists when they had power while also claiming them and republicans are the same. Yes they could act like Trump does now and create own autocracy. That they did not is a good point for them.

> who cares about the small differences

These are not small differences. For that matter, the tariffs Biden kept and current 135% dramas mixed with annexations threats toward allies are not nearly in the same league. And that is what I am talking about.

In order to achieve both sides are the same, you need to:

- Massively exaggerate bad democrats do, simultaneously blame them when they are centrists and when they go slightly left. And then throw blame them for what republicans do on top of it.

- Massively whitewash what republicans do, ignore the worst of what they do, minimize the scale. And then use their worst as a blueprint for what democrats were supposed to do.