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by settrans 440 days ago
Declaring something a "fact" without presenting evidence doesn't make it true. If we're talking about genocide, a clear, deliberate mass extermination campaign is usually what's meant, something akin to what the Jewish people experienced during the Holocaust.

You claim that Israel has an intent to wipe out Palestinians and steal their land. But if that was truly their aim, why hasn't it happened already? Israel has the military capacity to wipe out Gaza or any other area, but they haven't. The absence of full-scale destruction calls into question the assertion of genocidal intent.

In contrast, Palestinian factions like Hamas have repeatedly expressed their goal of annihilating Israel and its Jewish population. They acted on this intent with the October 7th attacks, promising more violence to come. They’ve openly stated their goal of driving Jews "into the sea", that’s genocidal intent, not from Israel, but from groups like Hamas.

So, if we're talking about genocide, where’s the evidence of Israel carrying out systematic, widespread destruction of Palestinians? On the other hand, if we look at Palestinian actions, the genocide you accuse Israel of seems to mirror the actions and rhetoric of those who seek Israel’s complete destruction.

Accusations like these are heavy and need more than just rhetoric. Without solid evidence, they become a diversion, not a reasoned argument.

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I could link-dump on you too, but that doesn't make for a very interesting discussion.

Why do you think it constitutes a genocide? What argument do you find convincing among those articles?

I thought you asked for evidence?

Airstrikes on hospitals is convincing to me. Next you will tell me that these reports can't be trusted.

Quit the mental gymnastics and just say you're cool with slaughter of people that were unlucky enough to be born into Gaza and the West Bank. Just say it. Cut the bullshit.

The US led airstrikes on hospitals in Afghanistan and Iraq. NATO forces struck hospitals in Yugoslavia. Were those genocides too?
I'm not defending those actions. You appear to be defending them though.
But surely they count as genocide for you, because hitting a hospital with an airstrike is the test, right?