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by transpute 434 days ago
Have you looked at Barrelfish (2011) from Microsoft Research and ETH Zurich?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/barrelfish-exp...

> “In the next five to 10 years,” Barham predicts, “there are going to be many varieties of multicore machines. There are going to be a small number of each type of machine, and you won’t be able to afford to spend two years rewriting an operating system to work on each new machine that comes out. Trying to write the OS so it can be installed on a completely new computer it’s never seen before, measure things, and think about the best way to optimize itself on this computer—that’s quite a different approach to making an operating system for a single, specific multiprocessor.” The problem, the researchers say, stems from the use of a shared-memory kernel with data structures protected by locks. The Barrelfish project opts instead for a distributed system in which each unit communicates explicitly.

Public development stopped in March 2020, https://github.com/BarrelfishOS/barrelfish & https://barrelfish.org

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Mothy Roscoe, the Barrelfish PI, gave a really great talk at ATC 2021 [0]. A lot of OS research is basically "here's a clever way we bypassed Linux to touch hardware directly", but his argument is that the "VAX model" of hardware that Linux still uses has ossified, and CPU manufacturers have to build complexity to support that.

Concretely, there are a lot of things that are getting more "NOC-y" (network-on-chip). I'm not an OS expert, but deal with a lot of forthcoming features from hardware vendors at my current role. Most are abstracted as some sorta PCI device that does a little "mailbox protocol" to get some values (perhaps directly, perhaps read out of memory upon success). Examples are HSMP from AMD and OOBMSM from Intel. In both, the OS doesn't directly configure a setting, but asks some other chunk of code (provided by the CPU vendor) to configure the setting. Mothy's argument is that that is an architectural failure, and we should create OSes that can deal with this NOC-y heterogeneous architecture.

Even if one disagrees with Mothy's premise, this is a banger of a talk, well worth watching and easy to understand.

[0] https://www.usenix.org/conference/atc21/presentation/fri-key...

He is right. The point of the operating system is to, well, operate the system. Hardware, firmware, software engineers should work together to make good systems. Political and social barriers are not an excuse for poor products delivered to end users.
Reminds me of Minix OS by Andrew Tannenbaum.

Anyone remember the debate between microkernel vs monolithic kernel?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanenbaum%E2%80%93Torvalds_d...

In fact, Barrelfish is based on running a microkernel per core, and makes good use of this design to better adapt to hardware diversity.

I understand why Linux develops everything in one place. This makes it far easier to manage. However, it is far more difficult to configure and specialize kernels. (Saw a paper where core operations of default Linux had gotten slower over the years, requiring reconfiguration.) Or to badly paraphrase Ingo Molnar: aim for one of two ideals in operating system design: the one that's easiest for developers to change/maintain and the one that maximizes performance.

Vapourware, what they post (microkernels) is nothing new.

As far as a barrel CPUs to replace SMT... crickets

10 years of shipped code for multiple platforms (x86, ARMv7, ARMv8) is not varporware. Based on software experience with existing platforms, they have created an open hardware RISC-V core which requires custom software to achieve energy effiency with improved performance, https://spectrum.ieee.org/snitch-riscv-processor-6x-faster

> Snitch proved to be 3.5 times more energy efficient and up to six times faster than the others.. "While we could already demonstrate a very energy-efficient and versatile 8-core Snitch cluster configuration in silicon, there are exciting opportunities ahead in building computing platforms scalable to thousands of Snitch cores, even spreading over multiple chiplets," says Zaruba, noting that his team is currently working towards this goal.

https://github.com/pulp-platform/snitch

Interesting, thanks!
It is on most mainstream computers, even though it is the way in most high integrity computing deployments.