[viccis]

No, my terms are correct.

The bailey is: "they are calling for the genocide of Jews!!!"

Once challenged, you will retreat to the more easily proven: "they are advocating for the return the land to the Palestinian people", as you just did there. I can promise you that no group of people needs to be allowed to occupy a previously settled region with violence in order to continue to exist. I've heard this argument from white nationalists who call for a white nation to similarly preserve their people from perceived threats, as well as heard it numerous times in African settler colonies (Rhodesia, South Africa, etc.) It's a standard ethnostate talking point, and none of us are fooled by it.

[trustinmenowpls]

Yes now you've corrected the terms, in your previous comment you claimed the motte was calls for genocide. Regardless, I'm defending what you're calling the bailey as it's easily defensible based on observable current events.

Care to explain how Kristallnacht is in any way different from an intifada? They are literally the same thing, a disorganized mob raping, murdering and attacking innocent civilians. The Arabs have done two intifadas, both resulted in countless dead and injured Jews who were attacked solely for being "el-yahud" aka "yuden" aka Jews.

As I said above, there is no motte and bailey fallacy here. You're the one making false claims about harassment of hamas supporters.

[viccis]

>Care to explain how Kristallnacht is in any way different from an intifada

Calls for a "global intifada" are simply calls to oppose the existence of the state of Israel as a settler colony in the land formerly known as Palestine. That's it. It is an immoral country, built by settlers as an ethnostate, and its existence is a moral stain on the world. Has literally nothing to do with "Jews" (I feel the same way about the Muslims in Nagorno-Karabakh right now) and everything to do with a bunch of jack boot fascists who ethnically cleansed an area and continue to oppress the remainder of the people there at gunpoint in massive concentration camps.

Calling for an intifada (which just means "resistance") against that is no difference than calling for the end of Rhodesia. This is a nation that made a man into a celebrity for raping prisoners.

[trustinmenowpls]

Your whole comment is a lie and you and I both know that but I appreciate you lying so openly, makes it much easier to know who the nazis are. There is literally no difference between intifada and Kristallnacht, or a pogrom or a lynch mob, they're all the same thing. You haven't explained at all how they're different, instead you again whitewashed two 5+ year periods of murder, terror, harassment, hate, bigotry, and abuse that was directed at jews, and you are now saying more is needed because of an imagined history of "ethnic cleansing" by some supposed "ethnostate" (whatever that means). You claim Jews are a moral stain on the world... which again sounds so similar to what a certain failed Austrian artist whose book happens to be super popular in gaza used to say...

Really, you right now are guilty of the motte and bailey fallacy, because as you just made up a bunch of indefensible claims so I really am interested to know what your motte is here. how turn the tables...

[viccis]

If you don't know what an ethnostate is, you shouldn't have posted this so late on a school night hahaha

But am I to understand from your comment that the current campaign in Gaza is intrinsically tied to Judaism?

[trustinmenowpls]

What does that even mean?

Why not answer the original question instead of speaking in non sequiturs?