[dinoqqq]

You probably missed SAP then.

> The company is the largest non-American software company by revenue and the world's third-largest publicly traded software company by revenue. As of December 2023, SAP is the largest German company by market capitalization.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP

[codethief]

I suppose OP specifically excluded SAP as it was founded more than 40 years ago.

[fsndz]

SAP is kinda of a monopoly no ? The software is bloated and complex to use. The UI is dated but everyone still uses it because it is so embedded into the core arteries of businesses.

[fakedang]

It's not a monopoly if it is hard to migrate from. SAP doesn't go out of its way to prevent you from migrating out of the HANA database. It's just that by the time you need a software like SAP, whatever you're buying becomes business critical and hard to migrate from regardless. And SAP is good enough to handle all kinds of edge case scenarios reasonably strongly. SAP doesn't even engage in monopolistic practices like what Microsoft or Apple do.

SAP and Salesforce are pretty much in the same bucket imo. The reason there is no Hubspot for SAP is that most smaller companies don't really need an ERP system.

[fsndz]

true. SAP is more of an entrenched SaaS. Once you have it, the switching costs are too high later on. What an amazing kind of biz. The stickiness is crazy.

[pembrook]

SAP predates the personal computer and the rise of the VC model in the 80s.

Its a bad sign if you have to go back over 50 years.

[pcthrowaway]

SUSE was founded (checks) 33 years ago if you want something more recent.

[bgnn]

Siemens is also huge in software.

AUTOSAR alliance is an organization based in Germany defining automotive ECU software architectures. Most automotive SW development is happening in Germany.

[AlchemistCamp]

It was founded over 50 years ago. It had already been running for decades before Amazon, Google or Facebook were even founded.