[jillyboel]

UNIX is dead, no one cares anymore. It's just Linux now. Your examples and complaints are both outdated and not in good faith.

For all the weirdos smashing that downvote button: How about you name me some UNIX distros you have ran in the past year? Other than Linux, OpenBSD (~0.1% market share btw) and ostensibly MacOS (which we all know has dropped any pretense of caring to be UNIX-like many years ago), that is.

[int_19h]

macOS is literally certified Unix.

[jillyboel]

Sure, but it's not actually. Everyone knows that everything you do for macos needs macos specific exceptions.

[DonHopkins]

Obviously and obliviously spoken by someone who never used a Real Unix System back in the day that EVERY Unix system needed MANY specific exceptions.

[jillyboel]

We're talking about the current day

[DonHopkins]

You have no idea what we're talking about. Are you not even old enough to have seen Jurassic Park?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOeY07qKU9c

macOS is absolutely Unix, and a lot more like mainstream Unix than many of the other vastly different Unix systems of the past and present, so exactly when did the definition of Unix suddenly tighten up so much that it somehow excludes macOS? And how does your arbitrary gatekeeping and delusional denial of the ubiquity and popularity of macOS, and ignorance of the Unix 03 certification, the embedded, real time, and automotive space, and many other Unix operating systems you've never heard of or used, suddenly change the actual definition of Unix that the rest of the world uses?

Have you ever even attended or presented at a Usenix conference? Or worked for a company like UniPress who ports cross platform software to many extremely different Unix systems? Maybe then you'd be more qualified to singlehandedly change the definition of the word, and erase Unix 03 certification from existence, and shut down all the computers and devices running it, but you're not. Who do you think you are, one of Musk's DOGE script kiddies? Because you sound as overconfident and factually incorrect as one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

>The "no true Scotsman" fallacy is committed when the arguer satisfies the following conditions:

>1) not publicly retreating from the initial, falsified a posteriori assertion: CHECK

>2) offering a modified assertion that definitionally excludes a targeted unwanted counterexample: DOUBLE CHECK

>3) using rhetoric to signal the modification: TRIPLE CHECK

macOS, AIX, HP-UX, Solaris (still technically certified), Inspur K-UX, EulerOS, etc.

POSIX-compliant and Unix-alike OSes (e.g., FreeBSD, QNX, etc.) are very active in many common domains (networking, firewalls, embedded, industrial).

Mission-critical infrastructure, telco, financial systems, military/spacecraft, automotive, and embedded still widely use non-Linux Unix or Unix-like systems.

QNX in cars, AIX in banks, Illumos in storage, RTEMS in space systems.

[jillyboel]

keep those ad hominems coming kiddo

have fun pretending anything you said still matters in 2025

[int_19h]

Yes, because apps are written for Linux first, and Linux isn't Unix.

[jillyboel]

sem_init would like a word

[int_19h]

It doesn't get one, on account of not being a mandatory part of SUS.

[jillyboel]

keep moving that goalpost

[pjmlp]

AIX and Solaris, Oxide uses Illumos, a Solaris fork.

Orbit OS on the PlayStation.

On embedded space, with various levels of POSIX compliancy without being Linux distributions, QNX, vxWorks, INTEGRITY, NuttX, FreeRTOS, Zephyr, RTEMS.

[jillyboel]

Thanks for proving my point