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by superkuh 438 days ago
It's easy as long as you're a corporation. It's onerous for a human person. Like the EU's excellent Digital Markets Act, GDPR should be altered to only apply to corporations. It'd be better if like the DMA it only applied to very large corporations, but just corporations is still way better than the status quo.
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It's also easy if you simply stop trying to track users and only store the most necessary data. Like, no one ever seem to consider this.

Meanwhile, this same community a few days back were discussing the idea of trying to abolish advertisement. That's truly bluesky thinking if we're still justifying user tracking in 2025.

I only "store" my webserver's logs and user submitted comments. But someone can still put the legal pressure on me, a random person, to force me to do work to turn over those logs/etc. It's wild. Like having a security camera, hosting a BBQ for the neighborhood, and having a neighbor demand access to the recorded video with legal threats. This whole thing really only makes sense in the context of for-profit incorporated persons. It should not apply to me, a random human person.
You have up to 30 days to respond to access/edit/delete requests.

It's accepted practice to only keep logs for e.g. 48 hours and respond to any request with 2 days delay "we've got no logs from that timeframe anymore".

Why do you store your webserver's logs? My reading of the GDPR (I am not a lawyer) is that it strongly encourages site owners to store the very minimum amount of data about visitors - something that I wholeheartedly agree with.

Server logs are useful for debugging the site but also contain potentially identifying information (IP addresses) so I have my site delete them after 48 hours.

User submitted comments are obviously required for the usage of your site, so you are in the clear there.

I read the logs with my human eyes manually because I am interested in learning about the web and internet. In fact today I found a whole new useful search engine because I saw it's spider in my logs.

    64.62.202.82 "GET /library/Math/Mathematical%20Methods%20for%20Physicists_%20A%20concise%20introduction_%20Tai%20L%20Chow_%202000.pdf -" "Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko; compatible; Centurybot/1.0; +http://www.rightdao.com/bot.html) Chrome/131.0.0.0 Safari/537.36"
It turns out that http://www.rightdao.com/ is a great old-style search engine that actually returns many tens of pages and thousands of results. As opposed to google that only ever returns <400, bing <900, and kagi <200.

I guess I keep logs because I want to interact more directly with the internet as a whole and experience the serendipity that comes with that.

Then keep your logs for 14 days, and remove IPs from them after 48h.

Tools for that exist, you don't keep unnecessary data, and you're in the clear.