[shanemhansen]

For me personally tests have a positive ROI within hours.

Even if I was doing a one day hackathon I'd probably have some sort of test feedback loop.

I've dealt with P1 bugs that cost the company 100k/minute and still took the time to write a test for the fix because you really don't have time to get the fix wrong and not find out until it is deployed.

[wombatpm]

Whenever I’m told there isn’t time, I remind the PM :Yes, but if it’s wrong or doesn’t work we will have time to do it over - it will just cost more later.