[blacksqr]

I don't understand the point of this article.

Was she not working in the US in exchange for accommodation? It certainly seems she was.

Was she not violating US visa rules by doing so? IANAL but it seems plausible she was.

Why did she sign her statement if it was inaccurate? I seem to see a lot of stories of people getting in legal trouble that boil down to 'I signed an inaccurate statement because I thought that would make it all go away.' Is this supposed to be an argument worthy of sympathy?

Is there a reason to see this story as something other than someone was unable to exercise white privilege to avoid consequences for bending (breaking) the rules?

[xiphias2]

All you are writing is true, but I would still put the main responsibility to workaway. Writing that ,,you need to obtain the correct visa'' is just not enough for a big company thats main profile is arranging work.

[Nextgrid]

> Why did she sign her statement if it was inaccurate?

Easy to say this in the comfort of your home while having all the time in the world to think about it. Much less so in a stressful situation and under pressure.

[blacksqr]

Also easier to research the applicable laws in the comfort of your home before you leave instead of trying to triangulate the situation while in detention.

According to the article the Workaway website explicitly says the traveler is responsible for securing the proper visas, which the woman here clearly did not do.

IANAL but I know enough about US law to know that giving accommodation is explicitly barred from being counted as compensation. Workers have to be paid minimum wage regardless of any room or board provided. I would be surprised if the law was much different in the UK.

[mcphage]

> I don't understand the point of this article.

The point of the article is to warn potential tourists to stay away from the US because it is no longer safe.

[ziml77]

But for this specific case, would it have been any different a year ago?

She was working in the US without a work visa. The US should have caught this before she came in here but didn't. Canada however raised an eyebrow at the arrangement and turned her away, while also informing the US officers as to why. They then realized she was doing the same thing in the US and so documented it and detained her for illegally working in the US.

What else could the response to the situation have been here? Because saying "oh it was all just a mistake, I didn't realize I got the wrong visa" is like saying "oh it was all just a mistake, I thought that sign said speed limit 80 MPH, not speed limit 30 MPH".

[5555624]

>The US should have caught this before she came in here but didn't.

How? Unless she said, on her (tourist) visa application or when she actually entered the country, that she wqas going to be working, they wouldn't know.

Years ago, my ex-wife came to he U.S. on a tourist visa specifically to work as an au pair. The agency she worked with and the family she worked for, all told her just to say she was coming here on vacation. No one at (then) INS ever knew. (When we decided to get married, she went home and we went through the seris K visa process.)

[mcphage]

> But for this specific case, would it have been any different a year ago?

Yes? They may have kicked her out of the country—not locked her up for 19 days.

> Because saying "oh it was all just a mistake, I didn't realize I got the wrong visa" is like saying "oh it was all just a mistake, I thought that sign said speed limit 80 MPH, not speed limit 30 MPH".

And if someone said that, do you think they should get locked up for 19 days?

[5555624]

Warn people coming to the US on a tourist visa not to work while they are here. Sure, people do it and people get away with it; but, if you get caught -- especially now -- you're going to run into trouble.

[librasteve]

the point of this article is to whip up even more dislike of the US and of travelling to the US among brits (who were already quite chippy about our richer and more handsome cousins across the pond)

that sells lefty newspapers like the guardian

it’s kind of all we can do to rail against your newly chosen president and his entourage who seem hell bent on screwing us all over

i feel sorry for, and i continue to like my american friends who did not vote for this betrayal of all values and relationships - but tbh there is a big backlash in popularity going on right now and i’m in the minority

[owebmaster]

equate volunteering to work will do wonders to the US tourism. Backpackers are tourists, not workers.