[lolinder]

Honestly? I think the biggest cause of JavaScript hate is that a huge percentage of developers have very little choice but to use it.

The web ate almost everything else for a host of reasons, and JavaScript is still the only language that the web natively supports. You can compile to JS or use WASM with occasional callouts to JS, but you can't get away from it entirely.

Most other languages have a greater sense of choice surrounding them. For backend work you can pick pretty much anything, and mobile is still a small enough chunk of the ecosystem that if you really hate Swift you can just find a job that isn't iOS dev. It's not so easy to get out of web dev without dramatically shrinking your job pool.

[no_wizard]

All I can say is that’s the cost of doing business with the browser being the main platform.

If devs want to interact with it less then focus on moving more to the server. You can still serve HTML and CSS and get a long way without ever touching JS.

It’s no different than other domains where one or two particular languages largely dominate. Like I don’t hear developers decrying the existence of C/C++ every chance they get

I think the hate is entirely unjustified. It’s fine to have preferences but so often it goes beyond that.

[lolinder]

FWIW, I agree totally, and I don't find JavaScript to be bad at all.

[NooneAtAll3]

> Like I don’t hear developers decrying the existence of C/C++ every chance they get

I guess you haven't encountered the monkey zoo of rust cultists yet

[no_wizard]

I have, but they’re not quite as zealous. The anti JS campaign has been running almost as long as I’ve been using it, which is pushing two decades now.

Now I know why PHP devs sometimes get a little defensive