[rayiner]

Removal of an illegal alien is not about “guilt” or “non-guilt.” And being expelled from the U.S. when you have no right to be here isn’t a “punishment.”

It’s like civil trespass. You don’t need a trial to kick someone off your property. And when the police remove them, they’re not being punished.

[antifa]

Let me offer you these educational links to give you a shallow introduction to some topics you are completely unfamiliar with:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_process

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law

[giraffe_lady]

Look it's fine let it go. You think this is good because you can't imagine it happening to you or people you care about and I think it's bad because I can. People stripped of citizenship also have "no right to be here" and that's the obvious direction this is heading.

In the many years we've been discussing similar things I've never known you to change your mind on even the smallest point of any subject. I frankly just don't respect you enough to put more energy into this conversation.