[nonethewiser]

That is very relevant overall and I thank you for bringing it to my attention. But what I'm talking about are people who declare tariffs as an absolute bad and then go on to say enacting them is rational and good. In the beggar thy neighbor policy, the behavior is not considered an absolutely bad thing. This happens with tariffs as well, but people can be even more dogmatic about it.

[lakhim]

Think of it like an invasion - shooting people is probably as close to an absolute bad thing as you can get, but if you're getting shot at its pretty much time to start shooting back

[nonethewiser]

Oh I get that.

We have these claims:

- Shooting someone is absolutely bad in all scenarios

- Its correct to shoot someone if they are trying to shoot you

I agree with the second point completely. The problem is if you say that, you should go back and revise the first point, because clearly its not absolutely bad.

In the case of tariffs, once you acknowledge that reciprocal tariffs are good, you run into a problem because the US generally has lower tariffs on other countries than other countries have on it.