[kkzz99]

No? There are a lot of studies showing positive benefits: >The primary benefit of creatine is an improvement in strength and power output during resistance exercise. Creatine is well-researched for this purpose, and its effects are quite notable for a supplement, both in the general population,[6][7][8][9] and specifically in older adults.[10][11][12] When used in conjunction with resistance exercise, creatine may modestly increase lean mass.[7][12][11][13] In trained athletes, creatine has been reported to reduce body fat and improve some measures of anaerobic exercise performance, strength, and power output.

https://examine.com/supplements/creatine/?show_conditions=tr...

And as a general rule of thumb: Don't take anything from 4chan seriously.

[tekla]

And yet the OP study claims otherwise.

Also hell, your own damn link says that elite athletes seem to get no benefit from creatine vs younger ones, meaning that its not really increasing muscle mass, just a combination of placebo, water retention, and maybe a burst of energy in the early stages of getting fit.

[moe_sc]

"In trained athletes, creatine has been reported to reduce body fat and improve some measures of anaerobic exercise performance, strength, and power output." The same link.

"improve strength, and power output" -> ability to train harder -> more muscle growth to put it simply.

[yjftsjthsd-h]

> And yet the OP study claims otherwise.

Why is this one study more believable than the others?

> Also hell, your own damn link says that elite athletes seem to get no benefit from creatine vs younger ones,

Where are you seeing that? All I could find was the opposite:

> In trained athletes, creatine has been reported to reduce body fat and improve some measures of anaerobic exercise performance, strength, and power output.

But regardless,

> meaning that its not really increasing muscle mass, just a combination of placebo, water retention, and maybe a burst of energy in the early stages of getting fit.

doesn't follow; it's perfectly plausible that something could help more in initial training but actually work then.