[grandempire]

If you draw a picture, you can spend 20 minutes, 2 hours, or 1 day and the quality will vary. Budgeting time should be a process of achieving team consensus about which level of effort will be applied for a particular job.

You don’t need to lie to have that conversation.

[Spivak]

Yeah, it's super weird that having been on the other side they don't see the normal agile-ish process as getting you all the benefits of fake deadlines with buy-in from the developer's themselves. We planned out the work, quantized it, estimated the time for each portion, and assigned them. If someone consistently isn't completing cards in the expected time and doesn't have good reason then you have a convo with them.

Ya know, basic manager stuff.

[makeitdouble]

Not your point, but setting and managing deadlines on when a picture from a professional artist will be delivered is an art in itself.

[steveBK123]

Yeah I think management / product / even engineers underestimate how much of time budgeting is "level of doneness" as much as "what should be done".

[AnimalMuppet]

Stronger: You need to not lie to have that conversation.