[atonse]

It solved a bunch of problems absolutely nobody asked for, nor cared about. Bulletproof paneling? I mean you can’t make this stuff up. The sharp edges were idiotic. It was absolute hubris over good engineering.

They should’ve done what ford did. Make it just a regular damn pick up truck, no need for bulletproof nonsense. And it would’ve sold like hot cakes.

[jmye]

> And it would’ve sold like hot cakes.

I still don’t think it would have. It’s useless for anyone who’s pretending they might haul stuff. It’s worse than useless off road. And it’s too small to appeal to the dudes who buy dualies to take their kids to elementary school.

Your first sentence is 100% dead on, except that it also completely failed to solve any of the problems people actually have (or, at least, problems they think they have).

[atonse]

Well there are a lot of people that buy pickup trucks in America that aren’t in trades, etc.

Ford’s F150 Lightning had a 2 year wait list. So there definitely was a market.

I’m not one of these people but just in my circles I had a neighbor who’s a lawyer who considered one, and another that’s a marketing exec.

And another friend who’s in IT pre-ordered a cyber truck.

[jmye]

Sure, but that’s what I’m saying: even for the people who buy trucks basically as status symbols, it’s a crappy truck.

There’s just no use case, IMO, where it sells to anyone who isn’t fully into what Elon was or currently is, or who didn’t buy the bullshit (self-driving, etc).

The F150 was the perfect electric truck - it can do real pickup things, but it also hits all the sweet spots for people who want a truck but don’t really need one (and who are willing to spend the premium).