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by zehaeva 439 days ago
That's an incredibly narrow slice of properties of ducks, nematodes (and humans).

Is there truly so little that makes up the soul of a duck? No mention of laying eggs? Caring for it's young? Viciously chasing children across the lawn of the local park? (I know that's usually the prevue of Geese, however I have seen ducks launch the occasional offensive against too curious little ones)
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lennxa 439 days ago
dude idk if you're trolling, but if not, the gp meant - if something exhibits the properties of a duck is it a duck.
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heyjamesknight 439 days ago
GP's comment still stands: how many properties of the duck does a simulation need to exhibit before it can be considered an accurate simulation?

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck but isn't made of duck meat, you probably don't want to eat it.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck but doesn't have feathers, you probably don't stuff its skin covering in your pillows.

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zehaeva 439 days ago
Not really trolling, unfortunately.

GP, in their parenthesis, made the insinuation that if it, which I would take as a LLM, talks like a human and makes up answers, like a LLM is wont to do, like a human is it human? >(if it talks like a human and makes up answers like a human, is it a human? ;)

While I don't subscribe to the idea that humans have a soul, or some other dualist take, I do think that there is far more to a human than just our cognitive properties. So to convince me that something is human takes more than just listing to it talk to me or make things up during the discussion.

So, too, with a duck. Sure, if all I have to go on is hearing a quack then I would say yeah that's most probably a duck.

Just like if you told me a barn was red when we say just one side, I'd say it's probably red.

I know, I know, I am fun at parties.

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Tadpole9181 439 days ago
It's like the idea that a civilized society would rather have a criminal go free than an innocent man be convicted. We are more than a brain, of course, but how confident are you? What's an acceptable level of risk for you potentially killing someone?
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