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by xnx 439 days ago
Yes. Waymo is safer than other drivers and makes the roads safer for everyone. https://waymo.com/blog/2024/09/safety-data-hub

No other company is even close (i.e. 5-10 years behind) to where Waymo is on self driving maturity.

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Well if thats the tip of the spear of FSD tech we're fucked, no way I will take robotaxi to work before I retire. Extremely limited environment well under control, almost always sunny, doing the same area for what - 10 or 15 years?

Can it drive in rain & snow on narrow non-marked roads, then join traffic jams (or not) on highway at 120kmh, then enter city and navigate obscure construction works around it, crazy aggressive cyclists and scooters and get me where I need, 100% reliably? Or lets say >99.995%, thats roughly human frequent driver level.

This is what I am willing to pay for, either as shared taxi or our own car, nothing less. Anything less is me doing all the driving requiring full attention, have that already in dumb cars.

Waymo can indeed drive through rain and snow on narrow unmarked streets, as well as traffic jams and navigate obscure construction works with cyclists.

Other than snow, it does all of those things in SF. They do snow testing in Tahoe and Michigan, not to mention the former testing in NYC.

Also weather testing in Buffalo, New York. One of the snowiest cities in the US.
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> No other company is even close (i.e. 5-10 years behind) to where Waymo is on self driving maturity.

Not too hard when you stay inside like three or four cities with good weather, straight roads, &c.

> good weather

I always see this argument but it seems like they did fine through the recent SF storms https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/waymo-robotaxis-storm... Most of the US has non-freezing weather for most of the year, so aside from avoiding heavy rain, snow, and ice I’m not sure what more you want.

> straight roads

SF might have mostly straight roads, but it has complicated intersections, bed drivers, cyclists, double parked cars, etc.

Waymo would do fine in any major city most of the year under most conditions.

> Waymo would do fine in any major city most of the year under most condition

There is no proof of this. I have yet to see these ever ferry passengers in snow, which in case you are unaware, is a common driving condition for many living in North America.

Snow and ice is in favor of vehicles with lots of computing on board - and not the wet kind.
I mean, I literally excluded snow from “most conditions” and snow is not common most of the year in major North American cities (and is often plowed quickly).
you might want to prefix city with "american".
Better to self drive in some places than no places.