[krapp]

Are we still on the "basket of deplorables" thing?

You know that comment wasn't about the working class as a whole, it was about the bigots and neo-nazis that were taking over the Trumpist movement. And she was absolutely correct about it. Instead of uniting over a common manufactured trauma response because the scary lady said a mean thing the right should have cleaned its own house.

>Instead, listen to them. Find out what they care about, what they want, what they value, and the represent that.

So... become Republicans then?

Because they do, you know. The Democrats do all of that, but no one cares. No one even bothers to listen.

This is literally the only advice anyone ever seems to have. The left should abandon its principles, surrender to its enemies and give them everything they want, and then maybe apologize for the inconvenience.

The condescension is getting tiring, just send us to the camps already.

[AnimalMuppet]

If "basket of deplorables" was a one-off, I might agree with you. But "clinging to guns and religion". There was another such comment this cycle, too, though I don't remember it. There has been a thread of contempt for the working class from Obama through Harris, and it keeps coming out of peoples' mouths.

If you claim to represent the working class, and your positions don't resonate with the working class, then you probably aren't representing them very well. If you claim to represent them but you hold most of them in contempt, then you almost certainly aren't going to represent them well.

You say they're all Republicans? Find out why. Find out why the Republicans are able to talk to those people - who are supposed to be your people - better than you can. Then figure out how to talk to them better than the Republicans can (hopefully with more truth and less nonsense).

I'm not asking you to let go of your principles. I'm asking you to live them. Your principles include caring about the working class, the lower class. Go live that out. Go be who you claim to be, who you've always supposed to have been.

If you think that's condescension, then I don't know what to tell you.

[krapp]

>There has been a thread of contempt for the working class from Obama through Harris, and it keeps coming out of peoples' mouths.

Obama, Biden, Harris, and even Hillary Clinton have stronger pro-labor and working class roots than Donald Trump, who has not only never worked an honest day in his life but has a history of abusing and failing to respect the working people he employs.

Tell me any Democrat doesn't represent working class principles when you can tell me anything about their actual platform. All I ever hear from Trumpists is memes and conspiracy theories, and far worse contempt for progressives, gays, trans people, women and immigrants than "guns and religion." That party declared empathy a sin and made "fuck your feelings" their motto, but it's the Democrats who are the assholes?

And you know, given Jan. 6th, the "guns and religion" thing doesn't even seem that unfair.