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by hnben 438 days ago
people seem downvote you, but I think this is a good example of how discussions SHOULD work.

> A: makes a strong claim, suggesting it to be well known

> B: doubts

> [100 people provide credible sources]

Also congrats for being 1 of 10000 today i guess https://xkcd.com/1053/
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Suppafly 437 days ago
> B: doubts

It's weird to doubt something that's been in the news a bunch and is reported on by reputable sources though. Instead of expecting 100 people to do a basic search for them, they should have done their own search and only doubted if they didn't find anything.

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sureglymop 437 days ago
You may have read a different comment then. I didn't doubt this claim, I only asked for more information about it. And no, one should never be discouraged from doing so, even if a "basic search" (not exactly well defined either) leads to many results.

This whole "do your own research" attitude is not good. It's easy to make any claim whatsoever without any basis of truth in this manner. Good for you if that is enough for you but for me that is not enough, logically speaking.

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sureglymop 437 days ago
Yes. I didn't doubt the claim. But I was able to read a lot about the topic and inform myself better by visiting the links in some of the responses.

One may call me lazy but I think it was a valid request and I also believe that informing oneself is not quite as easy as it perhaps seems. I certainly don't think it's as simple as "googling the issue" when it comes to something like this.

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probably_wrong 438 days ago
I didn't downvote the comment, but I would have done so. If we want to talk about how discussions should work then the commenter should have first spent two minutes researching and/or explained why sources like the Associated Press (my first result when copying and pasting the comment in DuckDuckGo) aren't reliable.

"I don't understand" is a good way to foment discussion. "I don't believe you" usually isn't.

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sureglymop 437 days ago
I believe the Associated Press is a reliable source, I'm not sure where I stated otherwise...

I just want to state for the record that I didn't claim to disagree with the comment nor am I a conspiracy theorist, nor a Chinese spy... I only asked for more information (which other comments have then provided).

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