[hardwaregeek]

Call me old fashioned, but I don't think it'd be that bad for schools to be almost completely analog. Obviously not for classes like CS, but do math class es or English classes really need computers? The whole "digital learning" push feels like it hasn't resulted in significantly better learning than with a book, pen, and paper.

[beezle]

Totally agree. Unless the use of the computer is integral to the material at hand (learning to program, learning to solve problems numerically, modeling) it is superfluous. Tons of dough spent on making it "modern" just for the sake of it.

[paulcole]

> Obviously not for classes like CS

Why is this obvious? Unless you’re talking CS = Programming a specific language, I think it’d be better for the K-12 version of CS to be completely analog save for maybe a “lab” for students in later years of high school.

[hardwaregeek]

CS at the lower levels should be programming and playing with computers. What else should it be? Analysis of algorithms? That sounds dreadfully boring for a high schooler

[DrFalkyn]

We started with algorithm analysis freshman year CS, in the early 90s. It’s not too difficult for simple algorithms like bubble sort

Exams we would have to write code, or predict the results of code or spot bugs

My teacher was a bit of a dick and would sometimes intentionally leave out a brace. Therefore “does not compile” was sometimes a valid answer :-)

[LorenzoGood]

As a senior in high school, I have wanted the latter for most of my time here. I can program and fool around with computers on my own time (and more efficiently than in class). After taking (and being bored in) AP CS A freshman year, I have just dedicated more time to high level math classes instead.

[smugma]

I took AP CS freshman year (30+ years ago), spent the rest of high school learning UNIX, becoming a sysadmin, putzing around with computers. I did spend a summer taking the Berkeley course teaching SICP, but I regret it. I recommend saving that for when you’re a freshman. There will be plenty of time for the theory.

Bulking up on math in HS is smart. I took AP Calculus and then went to community college to take more calculus.

[LorenzoGood]

Yeah, I ended up spending a lot of time messing around with Linux, etc. Then I got bitten by the hardware bug and am off to school for EE instead.

[tekla]

High School CS was programming in Java 25% and 75% algorithms when I went to school.

[porridgeraisin]

Pretty much. We had one lab period and couple of classroom periods in a week. We even wrote java on notebooks! Can't imagine writing java without IDE autocomplete these days, but "back then"(it was just 7 years ago) I was banging out JOptionPanes and JButton event handlers for a selection sort frontend with pen and paper perfect syntax, all the options memorized. Of course, the salary calculator as well (you enter the different components, it subtracts tax and tells you the answer - obviously a simplistic version)

[paulcole]

So except for playing with computers class then school should be mostly analog?

Yeah, I do think that kids would get a ton out of hands-on analog classes where they learn logic, problem solving, etc.

[hardwaregeek]

Yep! Like how except for gym class, school should be mostly in classrooms

[VyseofArcadia]

It's fiction, but the NEAL Stephenson novel Anathem explored this idea.