[jrowen]

I will also say that I don't hate vinyl records or people that like to DJ with them, I get why it's cool, I think it has a place. What I do take issue with is any kind of vinyl elitism or snobbism, because it's just so backwards at the professional level. I can't think of an analogue to another area of endeavor where there is this culture or sense of disdain for using the current tools and technology to do your job better. It's nonsense gatekeeping.

People that use hand tools to make things don't have this attitude that it's "better" than using power tools, it's just a different way that they enjoy.

Please carefully read everything I've posted in this thread. I'm speaking from a position of wanting to provide the best experience to the customer and the fan of dance music events.

[dylan604]

we've so lost the plot on this thread about my original comments. i said that vinyl is the better input control than a jog wheel. i'm not talking about using vinyl as the medium for playing back the sound. i'm talking about using vinyl as the control surface using Serato timecoded vinyl so that you can use the vinyl as the control surface which then controls whatever digital file system you want. you can still use that to beat match, loop, effects, whatever. but it will still be a 12" piece of physical vinyl that can be used to control things.

there is no elitism or snobbism about vinyl regarding music. it is solely about being a much better input mechanism.

[pdntspa]

Vinyl elitism is a bit of a problem but amongst the DJ community it is increasingly seen as old-man-yells-at-the-cloud. For most everything else CDJs are the superior choice; vinyl is a pain in the ass when I could just walk in with a USB drive and slot in. Plus it is a lot easier for producers to demo new tracks and test out WIPs with USB.

That said if you're good at it vinyl is still a lot of fun! And people respect it in a way that digital DJs may never experience. There is something to be said for doing some actual disc jockeying... the 'real DJ' cred is pretty great and a good way to differentiate oneself.