[throwanem]

Oh, he just means you need the experience of doubt before you can approach the experience of acceptance, because otherwise how'd you know the difference between what's true and what you'd like to believe?

Quakers like as much as anyone else to be taken as having had some special revelation, especially if they can get that to happen without having to show so bold as to overtly seek to claim it. Don't go thinking they're really so ahierarchical as all that, or that the names they call themselves are any truer by default than anyone else's.

[BrandoElFollito]

Or he likes these kind of meetings.

[throwanem]

¿Á que punto dije no está los dos?

[BrandoElFollito]

see my sibling comment

[throwanem]

I did, but I don't understand what you're objecting to with mine.

[throwanem]

Really, all I'm saying, and I reply to my own comment deep in a thread here to do so clearly, is that when someone starts speaking gnomically to you about "enlightenment," you are most wise to keep one hand on your wallet and the other over your drink, and your knees tightly together at all times, until he goes away and bothers someone else...then toss the drink anyway, just in case.