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by darthrupert 444 days ago
This sort of anti-progress sentiment doesn't belong here, I feel.
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The snarky „just don’t use Exchange, duh!“ doesn’t either. It’s a non-solution that armchair experts provide, who aren’t responsible for managing mailing for lots of people.
There is no alternative to Exchange that does not involve Microsoft?
There are many environments where people don’t have a choice but to maintain what is in production.

Whether or not viable alternatives exist, those alternatives don’t magically change org structure, office politics, budget, current business priorities, etc.

Bottom line: many people managing exchange don’t have the luxury of evaluating this problem in terms of alternatives.

I do not disagree with this.
I don’t know any that come close in functionality, configurability, and maintainability. Exchange scales from a one-person handyman to Fortune 500 without a hitch, it comes with an office suite and cloud storage space, you find specialists for it on every corner, and it mostly just works. That’s pretty hard to beat, even if I’m personally more than unhappy to be so dependent on Microsoft, a US product, and closed-source software; there’s just not much I can do about it.
what did people do before Exchange Online (or whatever the cloud offering is called)? they just didn't have email?
Thing is, I’ve been doing this since before Exchange Online, I know.

People used a few different groupware solutions, worked with bespoke IMAP installations on Linux servers, or (the vast majority) had on-premises Exchange servers running locally. It all required lots of tech wizardry, tinkering, duct tape and hope.

It was a long while before we had turn-key solutions, and you needed actually knowledgeable folks running your IT operations, and nothing was as fully integrated or cheaply available as Exchange Online.

what was hotmail using?

a.k.a. i think you're missing the point. It's ok. You want knowledgeable people running your key infra. Outsourcing that to a company that doesn't respect privacy seems to be shooting oneself in the foot.

I don't know man, what did people do before computers? Why does what people used to do have any bearing on the world now?
On-prem Exchange. And as someone on the user end, it was even worse.