[kypro]

Still, you have to give it to him, it works, and this has allowed him to do some incredible things beyond just hype.

What he's pulled off with xAI more recently is really quite incredible. And obviously this isn't first time Elon proved he can execute better almost anyone else.

I don't really have opinions on him as a person, but as a an entrepreneur you cant flaw him imo. He always finds a way to beat the odds.

[toomuchtodo]

"He's a terrible human, but look at the model benchmarks!" We're different people I suppose.

[gruez]

>"He's a terrible human, but look at the model benchmarks!"

That's basically the response to deepseek? Aside from a few people pearl clutching about "chinese propaganda" or whatever, most people praised its efficiency and performance on benchmarks. Credit where credit is due. Also note that China is an authoritarian regime where there's no separation between the state and private enterprise. Every company of non-negligible size has a CCP committee inside of it.

[SV_BubbleTime]

Can you qualify the first part? I haven’t met him.

[consteval]

You don't have to meet someone to know they're awful. I've never met Adolf Hitler - but I'm pretty confident he's an awful person.

Elon Musk uses his immense wealth to cheat. He's infiltrated the government and uses his power to directly harm Americans, in order to further enrich himself. In addition, almost everyone who has worked for him has corroborated that he is an awful boss.

He is also prone to dishonesty. When confronted with something that requires accountability, his strategy is to protect his lies with newer lies. FSD, the state of twitter, DOGE, and on and on. He is so dishonest that it's almost always safer to assume he is lying than to give the benefit of the doubt.

But, even on a personal level, he struggles to stay afloat. He has impregnated multiple woman and is practically forming an army of illegitimate children. Those who were close to him either speak of him with extreme disdain or not at all. The only child he has any connection to is used as nothing more than a political pawn.

The only reason anyone even thinks he might be okay is because he's rich. We tend to have an extreme bias in favor of the wealthy, almost akin to a brainwashing. The reality is being rich does not correlate with being moral or decent. It doesn't correlate with being intelligent either, but that's a separate conversation.

[MegaButts]

> What he's pulled off with xAI more recently is really quite incredible.

I genuinely have no idea what he's done that's incredible. I don't even know what xAI does apart from being a chatbot inside of twitter.

[minimaxir]

Grok was doing well on the LLM leaderboards (https://lmarena.ai/?leaderboard), until dethroned very recently by the latest ChatGPT and Gemini.

[kypro]

I know I'm late to reply, but to explain since many people seemed to be confused by what I said –– I think the speed at which xAI has caught up with the competition from nothing is quite impressive, and the lengths they had to go to to do this, even more so.

Grok is now competitive with the other big players in the foundation model space. To do this they had to recruit some of the top AI talent, speed run the building of massive AI data centers and of course execute well to bring it all together.

All of their competition have either had a time and/or financial advantage over xAI so it's quite impressive what they've managed to achieve given this. Deepseek's achievement in this sense is more impressive so I'm not delusional, but I was still very surprised to see how good Grok 2 was.

[sitkack]

I think you are mixing up Grok with DeepSeek. Grok managed to make a mediocre model using way more resources. xAI has nothing.

[belter]

> What he's pulled off with xAI more recently is really quite incredible.

What?