[diggan]

> anti-solar people

Anti-nuclear folks I've heard about (and argued myself against) in both Spain and Sweden, but anti-solar people? Never heard anyone being against solar, what are the arguments for not having solar granted you have enough sun and besides any temporary economic arguments?

[grues-dinner]

This kind of thing: https://infrastructure.planninginspectorate.gov.uk/wp-conten...

On the face of it it sounds somewhat sensible point by point, but the more you did in, the more it just boils down to finding excuses, any excuse at all, for NIMBYism, often from rich urbanites who moved to the country and want it to be an episode of Downton Abbey, and fret about their house price more then anything else in the world.

This one tries a particularly hamfisted and tendentious "but Ukraine", neglecting that the fucked domestic energy situation is heavily impacted by Ukraine right now.

[Timon3]

The arguments I've heard (even though most are wrong, they are still brought up):

- the energy they produce is too unreliable

- their production creates more pollution than they save

- the lifespan is too short to be worth it

- they require too much land that should be used differently