[ryandrake]

I don't have any Macs or iPhones that can even run the latest software anymore. My absolute newest Mac is stuck on Ventura 13.7. On the other hand, I can get the bleeding edge version of any Linux distribution out there and run it on decades-old hardware.

[scarface_74]

Unfortunately, “decades old hardware” doesn’t give me the combination of speed, quietness, battery life and the ability to use my laptop on my lap without so much heat that it puts me at risk for never having any little Scarfaces.

Using an x86 laptop in 2025 is like using a flip phone.

[Rohansi]

You can at least get 90% of the same experience with modern x86 laptops. Just exclude anything that has a dedicated GPU.