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by randomtechguy 451 days ago
It's a fair point - My opinions and use case are my own, I didn't mean to imply or assume there were promises not kept. The dagger team has been nothing but supportive and I do think has built a great community.

That said, in the early days it was definitely pitched for CI/CD - and this how we've implemented it.

> What is it? > Programmable: develop your CI/CD pipelines as code, in the same programming language as your application.

> Who is it for? > A developer wishing your CI pipelines were code instead of YAML

https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/0620b658242fdf62c872c6...

Edit: This functionality/interaction with the dagger engine still exists today, and is what we rely on. The original comment is more of an observation on the new directions the project has taken since then.
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shykes 451 days ago
Yes it's a fair observation. In terms of use cases, we did focus exclusively on CI/CD, and only recently expanded our marketing to other use cases like AI agents. It's understandable that this expansion can be surprising, we're trying to explain it as clearly as possible, it's a work in progress.

I just wanted to clarify that in terms of product design and engineering, there is unwavering focus and continuity. Everything we build is carefully designed to fit with the rest. We are emphatically not throwing unrelated products at the wall to see what sticks.

For example, I saw your comment elsewhere about the LLM type not belonging in the core. That's a legitimate concern that we debated ourselves. In the end we think there is a good design reason to make it core; we may be wrong, but the point is that we take those kinds of design decisions seriously and we take all use cases into account when we make them.

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oulipo 450 days ago
Why not just using "Dagger is a modern compositional framework, with applications from CI/CD to AI agents", so people understand perhaps better that it's meant as a "framework" rather than a "tool" for a specific use-case?
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shykes 450 days ago
Yes, this is what we're going for. At the moment the website says "cross-platform composition engine". But elsewhere in this thread, someone complained that it's too vague. It's hard to find a good balance between "too specific" and "too general".
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