[Imustaskforhelp]

theoretically you could always use the previous version / iterate on them.

I think this approach of see what sticks and them trying out a lot of different things can be nice but not in its current form.

Although I have installed dagger to give it a try and I am just not sure how to make it work , the quickstart / hello world doesn't' work.

No I don't want to make an AI , I just want to see what you really are.

And so I do agree with your statement!

[randomtechguy]

Yup - Ever since the introduction of llm as a core API we're basically going to stop upgrading / using the project unless things start moving in a more sane direction.

[levlaz]

Why is that? It’s just an extra type that has no impact on any other types. It’s a tool in your toolbox that you can use when you need it and ignore otherwise.

[randomtechguy]

Asked the opposite way - why is this a core API type of a buildkit interface? Having API calls to various LLMs as core functionality of a build system is just straight up weird. Doesn't fit, confuses developers on my team when they try to read/contribute to our shared build libraries, worries me about the direction the project is going.

Seems strange that especially with the push for modules this was integrated as a core type. It has nothing to do with buildkit or builds.

[verdverm]

Dagger isn't just a build system. I use it for all sorts of things, one example would be translating Go types to CUE, or the other way around. This happens in a container.

With LLMs becoming core to the development workflow, it kinda makes sense to have a primitive, since LLM i/o is a bit different from other functions. I haven't tried it, but this thread had me go look at the details and now it's on the roadmap. Probably make something of an agentic workflow that uses a tool in a container, see how it works out. I'm still skeptical that Dagger is a good tool or ecosystem for LLM work without integrations to all the extra stuff you need around LLMs and agents.

[levlaz]

Dagger aims to be more than a build kit interface and more than just a build system. Many people have been using it outside of CI for years.

But I can appreciate your perspective. Thank you for sharing your point of view.