[codewench]

18 USC 793(f) seems to apply here:

"Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing ... through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust ... and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."

We can only guess about the "prompt reporting of the issue", but from what I've seen and heard I'm willing to put money on the fact that, no, this was not reported.

[throwaway2037]

    > through gross negligence

If you talk to someone with a law degree (judge, lawyer, whatever), they will tell you that "gross negligence" is very high barrier to cross in US law. Most people misunderstand that. It is very unlikely that any of the people in that chat group would be found grossly negligent, especially for their first mistake. Please do not read that last sentence as an apology or excuse for their behaviour; they should be reprimanded for it.

[bb88]

Why would the FBI investigate anyone who would be pardoned by the president anyway?

[belter]

Don't worry, Courts are going away also...

"Speaker Mike Johnson floats eliminating federal courts as GOP ramps up attacks on judges" - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/speaker-mike-johns...

[belter]

And Law Firms..

"Donald Trump widens war on legal industry with order targeting Jenner & Block" - https://www.ft.com/content/4f1aca93-62b5-419f-9182-a3a10bbe7...

"Legal community shaken by a powerful law firm's decision to give in to Trump's demands" - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/legal-...

"Trump’s crackdown on top law firms spreads to Congress" - https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/24/retribution-big-law...

"The person predicted the impact could extend beyond Congress: “If you’re Google or Meta or Apple – you’re thinking, ‘Do I really want to use these firms?’ That could make it harder to work with the White House...."

[imglorp]

Yes and the legislature after that.

These are all smart people, so it boggles the mind to wonder how they can install a totalitarian regime without knowing the next two steps in the playbook.

[chasil]

Jefferson might have been called a totalitarian had the word existed when he signed the judiciary act of 1802, which removed judges added by federalists.

I have learned about it this week.

https://gingrich360.com/2025/03/18/an-intolerable-judicial-d...

[unholythree]

Well Jefferson certainly wasn't ever wrong about anything. He certainly wouldn't have held any beliefs contrary to 20th or 21st century values. /s

Obviously the dude had a lot of good ideas, but just grabbing anything he said and acting like it's gospel is flawed for dare I say a pretty glaring reason...

[chasil]

I'm not saying that Jefferson's words were elevated beyond his peers.

His flaws certainly belie such an assertion.

I'm saying that what Jefferson did was to remove problematic judges.

Congress had, has, and will have the power to reshape the federal judiciary as they choose. They can erase all courts below the supreme, and they can add or remove justices to the highest court as they choose (excepting present members, which are lifetime). Thus the saying "pack the court."

To challenge an executive that has friends in congress is a dangerous proposition for a federal judge.

It could end badly.

[bb88]

Relevant quote here:

    Jefferson wrote that making judges the ultimate deciders of law would “place 
    us under the despotism of an oligarchy.”

Seriously that's cognitive dissonance 101. "Elon Musk can't be an oligarch. He's a great Americ... I mean South African".

I also hesitate why anyone would want a 360 degree view of Newt Gingrich. In real life or otherwise. /s

[chasil]

Gengrich is an interesting subject of study precisely because he worked so well with Clinton that the roaring '90s happened.

Clinton fared poorly under Democratic control of the house in his first two years, which was lost in the midterms.

Clinton prospered with Gengrich, and the .com era occurred under their aegis.

Some bad decisions were made by them, no doubt.

[dcow]

Gabbard confirmed that no classified information was contained in the conversation.

[adgjlsfhk1]

And promptly proceeded to tell the same senators that she couldn't share the information with them because it was classified.

[kevin_thibedeau]

They are playing with semantics on minor technicalities that are irrelevant because federal code is expansive enough to make this breach a clear violation of the law on multiple counts. The Senators rightly grilled these incompetents on why couldn't they disclose the nature of the communications if they were unclassified and not sensitive.

The capable adults from the 45th administration are gone because they were too responsible. You can see what happens when you draw from a pool of nothing but drooling sub-80s.

[ceejayoz]

"We are currently clean on OPSEC" is an odd thing to throw into the chat if it doesn't involve any secrets.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/03/26/us/trump-news

> “1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package),” Hegseth wrote in the chat. “1345: Trigger Based F-18 Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME—also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s).”

If I were a potential "target terrorist" and this chat had leaked before the strikes, I'd make damned sure I wasn't at my "known location" that day.

[xeromal]

But also decided she couldn't share the same information with the committee.

[Analemma_]

“We investigated ourselves and found ourselves not guilty.”

[MPSFounder]

Traitors like her being in the highest offices of the land makes me sick. I will never forget images of her meeting Assad after that sob gazed children with chemical weapons, or her voting present to an impeachment. I wouldn't believe that traitor if she told me the Russians were at my doorstep. We have a circus filled with clowns unfortunately. The desk with Patel and her being interrogated is such a clown show.

[thefreeman]

“confirmed”