[alephnerd]

GDP per Capita is a metric for value of production as a whole.

Much of that GDP per Capita for NL can be attributed to high margin industries like Oil Refining (Royal Dutch Shell, Dutch Disease), Financial Services, and Biochemicals Manufacturing [0], which are not industries where at 5.5h workday is realistic.

And once you remove part-timers, the hours worked in Netherlands are comparable to the US [1].

The bigger question should be why part-time labor participation is significantly high in Netherlands, as part-timers and youth appear to earn at least half of full-timers [1], but this could also be confounding due to age along with gender [2].

Imo this makes Netherlands' job market look similar to post 2010 Japan's labor market, which isn't a great thing.

That said, it does go to show that median income and personal living standards are not tied with GDP per Capita.

[0] - https://atlas.hks.harvard.edu/countries/528/export-basket

[1] - https://opendata.cbs.nl/#/CBS/en/dataset/81431ENG/table

[2] - https://theworld.org/stories/2014/10/01/why-do-so-many-peopl...

[Aeolun]

> And once you remove part-timers, the hours worked in Netherlands are comparable to the US [1].

Sure, if you remove 40% of all the people working (maybe more?) then you are left with the people working full weeks. That’s… not very surprising? The point is kinda that so many people work part time that it significantly skews the average number of hours worked.

It’s kinda wonky that the average for full-time still sits at 40 hours though. I know very few people working 5 day weeks (e.g. 60 or 80%), and I’d assume they’re still classed as full-time due their contracts.

[alephnerd]

> Sure, if you remove 40% of all the people working (maybe more?) then you are left with the people working full weeks. That’s… not very surprising?

And how many of those 40% are working at an Oil Refinery owned by Shell PLC, an assay workbench owned by Solvias, or working on Clearing or ForEx at Goldman Sachs Amsterdam?

The majority of Netherlands' GDP is derived only from those kinds of activities in ONG, Biopharma, and Finance (also agricultural exports but that's a whole other story).

Not all jobs are made equal, and this is where productivity (as is defined in economics) comes to play.

It's the same in Japan with almost all economic activity being derived from automotive, medical device, and biopharma manufacturing along with financial services [0]. Most other roles are cost centers in some shape or form, and even Japanese companies have been offshoring roles not associated to those sectors to the rest of Asia.

From a competitiveness standpoint, it's not good, as it prevents other industries from being sparked and prevents economic diversification. If there's an ONG glut, or the EU signs an FTA with a major pharma manufacturer hub like China or India (as is the plan this year), or trade normalization between the EU-UK finally happens, then major sectors of the Dutch economy can become extremely wobbly, and reduce the ability to provide a social safety net, as those cost money. There's a reason why it's called "Dutch Disease".

Even the TNO [1] and CBS [2] has pointed out this issue, as the rise of part time labor in the Dutch economy seems to have been sparked by the Eurozone crisis.

> It’s kinda wonky that the average for full-time still sits at 40 hours though. I know very few people working 5 day weeks (e.g. 60 or 80%), and I’d assume they’re still classed as full-time due their contracts

If you are on HN, most of your peers are probably also working in tech or chill white collar jobs like government or back office work.

[0] - https://atlas.hks.harvard.edu/countries/392/export-basket

[1] - https://ioplus.nl/en/posts/dutch-productivity-growth-require...

[2] - https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2024/42/netherlands-lags-behin...