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by greatpostman 453 days ago
Calling everything a bubble is low iq. People that cannot understand society, or accept change, run with the bubble narrative at every turn
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Trying to reduce complex desicions to "iq" is by itself a marker for a lack of knowledge and a desperate attempt to make yourself feel superior to others.

IQ != intelligence

Anyway, aside from that - if it's not a bubble, there should be a sustainable business model, meaning, one which doesn't lose you ten times the money you make. So, where is it? Which company, besides nvidia, has actually created a sustainable business model based on AI? Where is its moat?

DeepSeek showed us that right now, OpenAI doesn't have any moat to speak of and can be essentially copied. Not exactly great for future profits.

> Which company, besides nvidia, has actually created a sustainable business model based on AI

NVidia's business model is not based on AI, is it? They are selling hardware. Their business success is "during a gold rush, sell shovels", isn't it?

>Trying to reduce complex desicions to "iq" is by itself a marker for a lack of knowledge and a desperate attempt to make yourself feel superior to others.

>IQ != intelligence

Pot, meet kettle.

IQ might not be actually measuring intelligence, whatever that might mean, but it's highly correlated with various things that are generally agreed to be indicators of intelligence, eg. educational attainment or performance on standardized tests. For something as woolly as "intelligence", IQ is pretty much as close as we can get, without trying to claim "it can't be measured exactly so we're not going to even trying to quantify it". Moreover it's pretty obvious that the parent commenter is using "iq" as a shorthand for intelligence, not referring to the results of a test that has to be administered by a trained professional and almost nobody knows the actual value of.

The commenter you replied to made a bad take, but you're basically doing the very thing you're trying to decry, by trying to viciously attack him with accusations of "a lack of knowledge and a desperate attempt to make yourself feel superior to others".

Intelligence is wooly. Making a quotient for it doesn't make it less so.

Using IQ in this fashion, as with many initialisms, can be a means of obfuscating biases, ambiguating, dog whistling, covering one's ass, preening, and discounting nuance. Yes that all is quite pedantic. But I still judge when I see people use them as crutches of (in)articulate communication.

If you have something to say, say it clearly and precisely and embrace the nuance.

You could instead provide an argument of why it is not a bubble. For example, we are perhaps one breakthrough away from something approximating AGI, etc.
I wanted to write a comment to you but I felt it was more general so I wrote it as a main comment here.

I just feel like you are troll not gonna lie. And I don't even want to feed into your brittle ego.

It just feels that you have some hate that you carry.

Care to elaborate where this hate comes from? Did you have a bad day today or what.

Anyways hoping that you give the path of hate and accept the path of giving constructive criticism.

Embrace peace. Reduce Hate.

Though the irony is that I myself don't follow it, so a man is full of contradictions. He wants to be shown as something when in reality he is something completely else.
My wife and I both work on and with "AI" tools and have for some time. It sure looks like a hype bubble. The stuff's... OK, in limited ways, but total shit if you start trying to use it to revolutionize anything, even in small ways. This has not meaningfully changed in the last couple years, it looks like the whole approach is just slowly converging on a local maximum that's nowhere near what the hype-meisters (Altman) were "warning" (lying, to hype their product) us about.

It continues to be true that the spaces for which it's best-suited to having a great effect on productivity are harmful ones, like spam and scams.

> Calling everything a bubble is low iq

I have some Tulips to sell you

Sometimes a bubble is just a bubble.