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by specproc 450 days ago
The best music is about sex and drugs.

Edit below to respond to that downvote and expand on my comment in the context of parent.

The best music is about sex and drugs, implicitly or explicitly. Perhaps the parent is worried about their children's exposure to the best bits of youth, fair enough, but I'd totally counter that the music of the 70s and 80s was in any way unconcerned with such things.

In the late 60s/70s Marvin Gaye was not being in the slightest bit coy when he suggested him and his lady should "Get it on", nor were Black Sabbath shy about their love for the Sweet Leaf. There's the Beatles with Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, Donna Summer was into Hot Stuff, Frank Zappa was filthy and deeply offensive by today's standards, and there's anything by ACDC. Clapton's singing about cocaine, Lou Reed is singing about heroin, reggae is huge and hugely into ganja.

And the eighties, ho-boy. You've got Prince, the Red Hot Chili Peppers (back when they were good), even more ACDC, Madonna was pretty raunchy back in the day. White Lines and the thin White Duke, Golden Brown, Passing the Dutchy pon the Left Hand Side. I'm getting exhausted just thinking about it all.

You're really going to have to justify the late 20th century as some sort of heyday of romantic and innocent music.

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From the article:

> Specifically, the confusion of the genre system disturbed the means for the proper release of the soul’s passions, causing audiences to be ruled instead by their unfettered emotions and impulses

I.e.: there are more ways to tackle the same topic, to develop an artistic work about some area. And there are progressive and regressive experiences. The topic is clearly too hefty to be summarize here - but the very submission has several points of "progressive vs regressive" expression as its theme...

If the poster writes «quite disturbing», probably he means that "the progressive is not there" (as sensible interpretation).

Many of the acts I listed there were truly genre-defying, progenitors, originators and auteurs: I'd point to the Beatles, Sabbath and Zappa as some cases in point. For me it's a tough stretch to argue that any of them had a genre system disturbing the release of their soul's passions.

Sex and intoxication, two of life's finer pleasures, have for millennia been captured in art, song and poetry -- at various points in civilisations' rise and fall. Pearl-clutching around "disturbing" modern music is, I'm sorry, something that's been going on pretty much as long as there's been music.

> finer

You chose an especially wrong word there (etymonline: «unblemished, refined, pure, free of impurities»).

But it leads to revealing that you seem to be embracing "one side", while the whole of the article was about "that side of yours fighting the other side" - can you see the other side?

If when speaking about music you refer it to intoxication, then of course since that kind of music has been there some noted it's "disturbing".

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Edit: incidentally: it seems checking again the chain of posts that you definitely misunderstood my use of 'progressive'. (If you related it to «genre-defying, progenitors, originators» - no, that's really not the direction meant.)

It is again something that has "intoxicant" as an opposite.