[refulgentis]

I don't want to be mean or assert without evidence, but, I'm not really sure how to respond: #2 simply doesn't happen, or even close, and it's also not a common partisan interpretation I'm being smug about. It's just flat out wrong, both parties don't try to ram a bill through, the government actually does shut down, and there's no calendar association.

[dh5]

I believe there actually often is a calendar association but only because the US fiscal year starts October 1st, and funding legislation needs to be enacted before then.

[refulgentis]

Your'e right. Raising the debt limit is a separate event, in theory there could be a shutdown if no appropriations are passed October 1st, and that was the flavor through 2000.

The idea that there's some sort of forced budgetary event on the calendar, related to the debt limit, that's then raced through to have competing solutions, then laden down with pork is Not Even Wrong, i.e. in the Pauli sense, and plainly wrong.

You raising the October date does leave open that maybe they're thinking of budgets and think the minority party in Congress has peer footing as a solution / is required to make a budget. That, at least, would explain the pork mention.

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[refulgentis]

No, please consult Hacker News FAQ re: come with curiosity, good comment is something we learn from, comments get more nuanced as thread continues.

Separately, I can't tell how the articles are related.

I am not claiming there has never been a debt limit issue in US politics, if that is what you are asking.