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by richwater 458 days ago
> Post-capitalist approaches are therefore needed,

The authors refuse to elaborate on this claim with specifics. Instead they provide generic statements such as

> We need to actively plan to shift productive capacities away from capital accumulation

and

> To reclaim productive capacities for national development, governments need to use progressive industrial and fiscal policy, public works programmes...

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The first named author wrote an Editorial in the Guardian entitled "Forget 'developing' poor countries, it's time to 'de-develop' rich countries"[0].

I can see where this particular research(er) is headed and with all due respect, I have no interest in following it through to the eventual completion which he makes clear in his editorial in Montly Review (a self-described Socialist magazine) where he eventually comes to the conclusion that Capitalism has done nothing to raise people out of global poverty[1]

> In sum, the narrative that the rise of capitalism drove progress against extreme poverty is not supported by empirical evidence. On the contrary, the rise of capitalism was associated with a notable decline in human welfare

It's abundantly clear this is a preconceived outcome with a paper written around proving it

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[0] https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals....

[1] https://monthlyreview.org/2023/07/01/capitalism-global-pover...

1 comments

It's interesting to see how defensive people get about capitalism when other economic systems are mentioned. If capitalism is so great, then argue its strengths. It should be able to withstand the criticism that comes its way without having to attack other systems or the critic's background.

FWIW, I agree that capitalism has helped drive progress and increase human welfare in the past, but I no longer agree that it's currently raising human welfare, even if it's still helping to drive progress. I also think that what we have in the USA is not pure capitalism anyway and without acknowledging that, a real discussion will never be had. A form of socialism already exists here, and people seem to like it.