[lucb1e]

Due to some unfortunate circumstances I had a customer call on Google Meet once while walking across Paris. I ware barely understandable while holding the earphones' mic in front of my mouth...

Good hardware definitely beats software trying to make something out of nothing: can't make directionality out of 1 mic, so Google Meet couldn't filter out background noise in that situation. Though it didn't help that these USB-C DACs seem to all be terrible (I tried several with the best findable reviews) compared to any old headphone jack where the device's internal DAC just worked

[pja]

In that situation you’re better off using Meet audio only & holding the phone as if doing a video call - the background noise cancellation modern phones do is very impressive but it only really works if you use the phone as a phone & hold it up to your ear / mouth.

[lucb1e]

Yeah, maybe I should have forfeited being on video for the sake of audio, didn't think it would be this bad. I do attribute at least half the problem to the removal of headphone jacks though, I don't remember this being that big a deal with the regular DAC in any old phone

[pja]

Yeah, earbud noise cancellation may as well be non-existent unfortunately.

You’d think a phone could do cancellation between the bud microphone & it’s own microphones; maybe once the audio data from the bud has been pushed through bluetooth audio compression there’s no longer enough information to do that effectively?