[danaris]

The solution is to keep fighting, not give up and decide that we can only ever have corruption and despotism, with the only choice being whether we are the oppressed or the oppressors.

A better world is possible, whether you believe in it or not.

[tkjef]

i agree with everything you say. i just think the first step is what i’m laying out.

gotta show them we’re not afraid to play their game and win it as well.

we should be able to play any game, any time. But based on that direct the game to be of higher moral ground.

editing this comment as apparently we’ve reached our thread comment limit.

yes, bargaining from a position of power. that would allow to direct it to a more suitable place. banding together with individuals of power to produce combined power. you say it’s impossible and then say exactly how we’re going to do it. :)

i hope you know this has been a very enjoyable conversation for me.

[danaris]

I don't see how "become the oppressors" can possibly be read as having the "moral high ground."

At best it's "bargaining from a position of strength."

But, again, I apparently need to emphasize that what you suggest is, for any given individual, effectively impossible. The only way to achieve it would be to band together in such numbers that we could, instead, work to influence politics toward the ultimate goal of equality with much more success.