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by rustc 452 days ago
This is a strange page: https://upcloud.com/products/zero-cost-egress

There's "zero cost egress" mentioned all over the page but the limits on https://upcloud.com/fair-transfer-policy are comparable to other hosts like DigitalOcean: the cheapest 7 EUR VPS has a limit of 1TB of bandwidth. (For comparison, Hetzner offers 20TB on their EU VPS for under $5.)

> Say goodbye to unpredictable egress costs and hello to our zero egress fee initiative. Unlike other cloud providers, we don’t charge for outbound traffic (‘egress’). This gives you the freedom to distribute your content and scale your business without the constant worry of unexpected bills.

This has to be a joke.

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Yeah they’re going bankrupt in a couple of months.
OHV and leaseweb have been doing this for a decade and are fine.
Dosen't the EU Data Act prhoibit egress costs?
No I don't think so. You have to able to take your own data out for free. But delivering it to everybody else can be charged.

Edit: Not allowed to comment on your reply anymore. I read it as a confirmation of what I said. Charging for egress in general is allowed. Only the egress to take your own data elsewhere must be free.

Chapter VI: Switching between data processing services

The Data Act will also entirely remove switching charges, including charges for data egress (i.e. charges for data transit), from 12 January 2027. This means that providers won’t be able to charge their customers for the operations that are necessary to facilitate switching or for data egress. However, as a transitional measure during the first 3 years after the Data Act’s entry into force (from 11 January 2024 to 12 January 2027), providers may still charge their customers for the costs incurred in relation to switching and data egress.

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/factpages/data-act-...

Is that for all egress or just for switching providers? "Move all my data from GCP to AWS, no cost" is quite a different thing from "Host video files for free"

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2023/2854/oj/eng

> In order to foster competition, the gradual withdrawal of the charges associated with switching between different providers of data processing services should specifically include data egress charges imposed by a provider of data processing services on a customer. Standard service fees for the provision of the data processing services themselves are not switching charges. Those standard service fees are not subject to withdrawal and remain applicable until the contract for the provision of the relevant services ceases to apply. This Regulation allows the customer to request the provision of additional services that go beyond the provider’s switching obligations under this Regulation. Those additional services, can be performed and charged for by the provider when they are performed at the customer’s request and the customer agrees to the price of those services in advance.

Why, exactly? Cloud providers don't pay per GB themselves, since they make their own peering agreements, and the only reason we users end up paying $/GB in transfer is because people end up paying for that premium when companies offer it.

It doesn't have to be like that, and it seems like this provider agrees with the idea of not upselling $/GB transfer costs, since they themselves don't pay it like that either.

I'm curious to see how it goes, as others mentioned, they're not the first (nor will be the last) to offer this no-nonsense pricing scheme.