[sschueller]

> At UpCloud, we are committed to complying with European data protection laws and compliance with ISO 27001. This international standard not only signifies our dedication to maintaining a high level of information security but also ensures that we adhere to recognized best practices in managing and safeguarding your data.

If you want to be Europe only that includes not terminating your SSL at a US CDN provider like Cloudflare...

I just hit "Gateway time-out Error code 504" from Cloudflare trying to open https://upcloud.com/pricing

[confiq]

I'm not expecting 100% SLO, but using Cloudflare cloud service while you are a cloud service is little ridiculous.

[graemep]

That is only for their public site. The US provider has a European presence (the error page is clear I am seeing Cloudflare London).

Started working for me while typing this.

[hnbad]

European presences of US providers are still US providers with all the implications of that for privacy, applicability of US laws, government interference and a potential trade war.

[breakingcups]

You say that, but their login page / dashboard is hosted on the same IP, also through Cloudflare.

[graemep]

I had not noticed that. Thanks. Not good.

[graemep]

I think I will be moving the stuff I have on Upcloud elsewhere!

[csomar]

How does that make it any better?

[graemep]

Because if the actual services they used were not going through cloudflare then it would not really matter to users.

It turns out their management web UI (for orders etc.) also goes through cloudflare so that is a potential problem (and I now plan to switch away from Upcloud for that reason - its silly to route that through Cloudflare).

That said, their servers and their managent are in Europe.

[csomar]

> Because if the actual services they used were not going through cloudflare then it would not really matter to users.

This might fly if they were selling Bananas. But they are selling "cloud hosting". Cloudflare is literally their competitor.

[rustc]

And they're also loading a script from googletagmanager.com.

[earthnail]

Whole website seems down. I'm accessing this from Stockholm, Sweden.

[maelito]

Everything's working for me in France.

[LexSiga]

works for me in the baltics.

[surgical_fire]

Could open that page here with no problem.

[lifestyleguru]

No problem over here at all. It's probably a problem with "German internet".

[greybox]

Working fine for me