[DonHopkins]

You READ what it did and REVIEW every change and ASK it to explain and LEARN from it so you can do it yourself too: the OPPOSITE of "vibe coding", whose goal is to avoid learning and reading and reviewing and understanding at all costs, to live a careless effortless TLDR life of self imposed ignorance.

There's a responsible enlightened self enriching way to use AI tools, and there's "vibe coding".

[bluefirebrand]

> You READ what it did and REVIEW every change and ASK it to explain and LEARN from it so you can do it yourself too

I don't believe anyone will actually use AI this way long-term

Even if we start out this way, eventually people will trust it enough that they get complacent and mistakes will start to slip through

Besides which, this doesn't actually sound faster than just writing the code yourself

[DonHopkins]

Speak for yourself. That's the way I use it, so I get a lot more out of it and get a lot more done than a "vibe coder" who's lazy and doesn't want to put in any effort or learn anything new.

You simply can't learn nearly as fast with vi or Emacs or VSCode, and they can't explain unknown code and APIs and algorithms and bug fixes to you, suggest best practices, review code, write documentation for existing code, check and align code with updated documentation, or automatically update existing documentation and comments to reflect the actual code.

Right now I'm using Cursor to refactor and overhaul a huge complex multi-repo codebase of Python, TypeScript, Bash, SQL, JSON, YAML, Markdown, and ML models, from multiple repos with Google Cloud Build to a monorepo with GitHub actions, and it's no cake walk, a huge amount of work, I'm learning and applying a whole lot of new stuff, meticulously documenting every part of the system, making it rock solid, DRY, with extensive logging and error handling, and there's no way I would have been able to do 5% of this work in the same amount of time without using AI. You don't HAVE to be lazy, instead you can work as hard as you've ever worked without AI and get a hell of a lot more done while learning new things, if you so choose to. It's all up to you.

If you insist on going into it refusing to use it as a learning tool, and don't want to work hard, then you be you, and I'm going to have a huge advantage over you or any "vibe coder".

You asked "How do you verify that Claude did what you wanted?" and I told you. Just because you're too lazy and incurious to drink the water I led you to doesn't mean I or anyone else can't.

[disgruntledphd2]

Yup, this is gonna be like autopilots and aeroplanes all over again.

It's a shame that we'll invest so much money and compute into this, and continue to ignore all the ergonomics research that could help.